Talk:Ministry of Internal Affairs (Russia)

Old talk
Please do not confuse "security agency" and "intelligence agency". MVD was mainly police force. No intelligence. Mikkalai 03:17, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * And this is not the only confusing issue. Tha author also confuses the tasks and organizational structure. OMON is not a separate police agency or even a directorate, and it's not OSNAZ or SOF. So article needs an improvement BADLY. People, let's be more professional about facts. Teenagers and kids are kindly asked to learn more and/or concentrate on eathier stuff like weapons, models, ranks and signs AlexPU

What exactly is a militioner? Lamjus 04:36, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * see Militsiya. mikka (t) 21:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Border Guard
Who is in charge of border guard in Russia? In early USSR in was NKVD Border Guard. mikka (t) 21:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Answer: They were independent as the Border Guard Service of Russia from 1991 to 2003 when a presidential decree by president Putin placed them under the FSB. They are now known as the Border Guard Service of the FSB.

Ministers
We could do with a list of the heads of this Ministry if somebody has a source. There doesn't seem to be one elsewhere on wikipedia at the moment. 62.25.106.209 15:55, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Alert: Image nominated for deletion
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Confusing history.
Trying to understand the compositional / structural history of the the MVD is very difficult and confusing. This article does not seem to be consistent with or complementary to the KGB and NKVD articles in this regard, for example. Peet Ern (talk) 07:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * KGB is not a special body of executive power that was sometimes part of MVD, but always as an autonomous and often independent agency. NKVD is an obsolete form of MVD when ministries were known as people's commissariats (narodnye kommissariaty). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 14:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Name of the migration service
Is FMS the same as UFMS ? Apokrif (talk) 11:44, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Weapons
Can someone make sure that those weapons as the FN F2000, T.A.R.21, MP5K, Franchi SPAS-12, and the Heckler & Koch USP are used by the MVD? I highly doubt they are used by them and looks like who ever wrote the weapon section is made by some MW2 fan who got his "information" from the game. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.30.198.83 (talk) 00:25, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

The Makarov pistol should be added to the weapons list. It is ubiquitous in all armed services of the Russian Federation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.142.104.192 (talk) 13:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Article Requires Complete Revision
So according to this article, Russia has had only one (1) government since 1800? It's an interesting premise, but according to most people with some knowledge of history (no matter how small), this cannot actually be true. If a new government is formed, particularly that of a different form of government, then despite the commonality of a generic name that is used for each type of government, it cannot be categorized as the same continuous entity. This article requires a complete revision, so that it can meet the most minimal standards of human organization and understanding - otherwise, this article is virtually useless... To say that the Ministry of Internal Affairs is the same as, and a continuation of Alexander

Stevenmitchell (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Kobalt
The link to the police group Kobalt leads to an article about a comic strip.24.66.231.143 (talk) 11:17, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Possible copyright problem
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 * Substantial material was copied from an article by Gordon Bennett, searchable through google, entitled 'The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation' (Conflict Studies Centre, 2000). --Mkativerata (talk) 20:08, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 2 November 2020

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: No consensus  (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:09, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Ministry of Internal Affairs (Russia) → Ministry of the Interior (Russia) – By analogy with the name of the Ministry of the Interior of the Russian Empire. --AlexTref871 (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Oppose. Is there any particular reason why both shouldn't be Internal Affairs rather than vice versa? The current rationale is very weak. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:38, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * This is one and the same ministry of Russia, but in different historical periods. In Russian, they have the same name (Ministry of Interior), I think that in English they should also be called the same. --AlexTref871 (talk) 05:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, Министерство внутренних дел (which was the name of both) translates as Ministry of Internal Affairs, and that is in fact the common name in English-language sources, so both should be moved to that title. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:51, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * In this case, I believe that the Ministry of Interior of the Russian Empire needs to be renamed. --AlexTref871 (talk) 08:08, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Ministry of intereor Russian
Man 203.171.101.132 (talk) 16:12, 26 December 2022 (UTC)