Talk:Minority Report (film)/Archive 2

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 * Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.


 * Got this. AaronY (talk) 09:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, this was pretty much worthless. AaronY (talk) 11:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This book isn't available near where I live and from the looks at it in google preview, its most likely pretentious nonsense. I just spent $100 plus in books for Pre-Code Hollywood, and John Kennedy Toole I really can't fork out more money to buy something that looks like nonsense. AaronY (talk) 09:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * By contrast the Kowalski book I used is great. I'd like to find more good print sources, shame those won't do. AaronY (talk) 11:41, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I found a really good print source in this Buckland book, and have added some info. AaronY (talk) 08:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, good to see that you benefited from these! :) Do you need more? I only dropped these off since I found them while researching other films. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 23:03, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I found a really good print source in this Buckland book, and have added some info. AaronY (talk) 08:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, good to see that you benefited from these! :) Do you need more? I only dropped these off since I found them while researching other films. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 23:03, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

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The above references relate to critical analysis. I have not researched production, but if you can, the British Film Institute provides an excellent list of references in their Film Index International list. I used to have access to this, but not anymore. It may be worth checking out Cinefex and American Cinematographer. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 16:59, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I see that a couple of references (like the one from Rhizomes has been used; I was only avoiding redundancies with what was in the "Sources" section. Regarding themes, it may be worth phasing out the movie reviews used as references in favor of the more academic ones. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 20:27, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

"The Ending" Section
This section comes off as less informative than persuasive. One of the arguments presented, that the removal of part of the epilogue portion was tantamount to implicitly confirming the falseness, fails to make sense and seems like a non-sequitur tossed out as a proof. Overall, this portion really lacks evidence aside from a few observations and the words of a few commentators. I don't necessarily believe it should be given the weight that it has.156.12.190.83 (talk) 02:21, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Archive invisible?
Old discussions here were archived by user Erik back in January. The odd thing is, the archive has no link at all on the page. The only way it can be accessed seems to be through the history log of this talk page, looking up Erik's edit. Could someone fix this?Strausszek (talk) 02:48, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Literally zero mentions of Religion in this article?
Seriously? How is there no one to quote about this in the Theme section of the article? Maybe I'll have to search on Google...

I'm also disappointed there's nothing about the theme of "seeing". "Can you see?" is repeated over and over again (along with variations), the glasses at the start, the man with the missing eyes, John's new eyes, and obviously seeing the future. Also, the problem of interpreting what is seen: they interpret the murder vision as an "echo", because that is what it looks like, the trust placed on the spider bots measurement method also fools the cops and allows John to evade detection, because they interpret the scan info as reality, and there's something similar to René Magritte's painting The Son of Man, when the balloons block the view so that the police don't see John and the precog.

I just re-watched this film after never seeing it for years and years, so it's not like I've put more work into reading the themes of this film than other people. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to these themes than other people? Well I guess I've seen that theme of "seeing" more obvious elsewhere, such as the film Exam, A Scanner Darkly, some people's philosophy writings (usually pomo). So maybe I just recognize it more easily.

But, ya, this movie and the movie A.I. have some religion themes! Very obvious I would think! BrianPansky (talk) 18:51, 2 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Not sure about this. Anyway if you want to add it as a theme you need references. From a quick search I found this: and  with the latter's theme being better described as "faith" (imo way more appropriate than "religion" here).
 * --Fixuture (talk) 20:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

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Cyberpunk?
I see cyberpunk is listed in the lede as a genre, but I don't see it. The cyber element is here, but where's the punk? This is not comparable to either Blade Runner or Neuromancer, it's entirely too clean. I suggest that be removed. ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  17:19, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree that it's not as cyberpunkish as other works such as the ones you named but it's still cyberpunk enough to be called so - which it is in reliable sources. The depicted future is gritty enough with all those mini-scanning drones, ubiquitous personalized augmented reality advertising and high density futuristic megacity etc. --Fixuture (talk) 16:27, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Fixature is right, it is cyberpunk as in WP:DUCK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.154.160.31 (talk) 04:35, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Themes section
The "themes" section is entirely too long, considering that there is an entire separate article covering these subjects. The section needs a considerable paring down to the most important ideas. The longer details should be, and are, covered in the main article. ---  The Old Jacobite  The '45  15:29, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I've tried to grab the main theme points from each section as "teasers" for the separate article. References may be broken for a few minutes but a bot should be along shortly to fix. --M ASEM (t) 20:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Well done! ---  The Old Jacobite   The '45  13:48, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

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