Talk:Minute Maid Park

The Name Change
I heard that when they changed the name, they offered a prize to anyone who could find the phrase, or logo of Enron in Minute Maid Park. Can anyone provide any information on this? I think its a hillarious little detail. -- Theycallmemorty 15:28, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

The Roof
ESPN is running a story that Bud Selig wants the roof open for the World Series but there might be bad weather for those nights in Houston. Does anyone know how long it takes to open/close the roof in case there is bad weather?
 * Just about 20 minutes, if I recall correctly. --bbatsell  |  &laquo; give me a ring &raquo;  03:47, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * "12-20 minutes", according to the Astros' website. --bbatsell  |  &laquo; give me a ring &raquo;  03:50, 25 October 2005 (UTC) Yet i wonder...
 * I'm waiting for the conspiracists to suggest that MLB is doing everything it can to make sure the White Sox win. Wahkeenah 12:56, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Tal's Hill
This article says that Tal's Hill is a 10-degree incline. The Tal's Hill article says it's 30 degrees. This sounds like an inconsistancy. Is it? If so, what is the real value? --Amoore 04:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

If you've seen it on TV recently, it is definitely more than 10 degrees. It's also an abomination, but that's another story. Wahkeenah 12:54, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I've added the following reference which states that the incline is 30 degrees, and also verifies other facts in the article: —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-28 10:06Z 

Astros No hitter
6/11/2003 Astros over Yankees 8-0[]
 * This no-hitter occurred at Yankee stadium. The Astros have not thrown a no-hitter at minute maid park.Cjosefy 15:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Text
Why is all the text crammed into the infobox? I can't figure out what went wrong with the formatting.  SCH ZMO  ✍ 18:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge from Tal's Hill
I've merged Tal's Hill to Minute Maid Park. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-28 10:01Z 

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Hurricane Ike
Did Hurricake Ike have impacts on Minute Maid Park? If it did — aside from the fact games were postponed or moved at around the time of the storm, although notable — then this article should include information about the impacts of Hurricane Ike on the park. Briguy52748 (talk) 21:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)]]

Coca-Cola cats
Hello, I'm cleaning up the cats for Coke articles. Since Minute Maid is the juice brand of Coca-Cola, I added the same cats I did for other stadiums the company sponsors. Since I don't know if it's common knowledge who owns MM, I just wanted to explain what I was doing. If anyone has suggestions for further improvements to the cats/templates, I'm always happy to refine them futher.RevelationDirect (talk) 04:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

telephone numbers
wouldn't be nice to have a phone number for Minute Maid Park in an easy to locate section of this article??? I think so. Also, trying to figure out the optimal parking section and entrance for a specific seating section would be REALLY nice... Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.82.210 (talk) 00:32, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I know this is really late to respond to this, but I figured I might as well do so for those who stumble across it later. Phone numbers, parking, etc. is not appropriate for an encyclopedia article. Have a read at WP:NOTGUIDE to understand how Wikipedia is not a guidebook.  Thanks! Brian Reading (talk) 04:53, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

attending a game for a fee
The piece states that, "In 2004, the Astros launched Wi-Fi throughout the ballpark, allowing fans to use the Internet while attending a game for a fee..." The wi-fi can be used by fans who pay for a ticket and for fans who might get in for free. Maybe this wacky syntax should be reworked to something more clear, such as : In 2004, the Astros launched Wi-Fi throughout the ballpark, allowing fans to use the Internet for a fee while attending a game... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.27.133.111 (talk) 03:18, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Fence heights?
We'd sure like to know how high the fences are in the outfield. If anyone knows, please share it with us.

Yugiohfan2010 (talk) 18:29, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Why does it talk about Tal's Hill like it's already gone?
an edit is needed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.29.87.28 (talk) 05:26, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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Screen Size
The screen at minutemaid park is not the fourth largest in baseball. Correction needed.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/ct-baseball-video-boards-htmlstory.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1012:B104:4E97:911C:A56B:CC8E:A267 (talk) 03:34, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Merger proposal

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I propose that Tal's Hill be merged into Minute Maid Park. Tal's Hill is a no longer existing feature of Minute Maid, and the article on the hill is short enough and not likely to be expanded (again, since the feature no longer exists), so doesn't really merit its own article. I see in the history for Tal's Hill that it was previously merged back in 2007, but The C of E took it upon himself to recreate the page in 2017. 73.32.38.72 (talk) 15:31, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Oppose: 10 year old consensus (which I didn't know about when I created it) is not really holding the same weight as WP:CCC. Besides, the fact it no longer exists is not a valid reason for merging as it is now historical reference, neither is the length as it is well sourced. Besides WP:UNDUE would preclude the need for it to be merged as it would put more weight on the Hill than the ballpark.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 20:14, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Conditional Support: The argument for UNDUE is unconvincing. The Minute Maid Park article is fairly comprehensive, so adding about about five or six short paragraphs on Tal's Hill will not make the rest of the article topple from the weight of additional content. I agree that the Tal's article is well-sourced and can stand on its own; however, reincorporating it to the Minute Maid Park article will make the latter more comprehensive, and it will stand a better chance of developing into a GA or FA. Tal's Hill is important enough to the history of the ballpark that it warrants a detailed narrative. I only support a merger proposal that would preserve the content of the current Tal's Hill article, other than copy edits. If the idea is to merge and cut the content in half, I would oppose. Oldsanfelipe (talk) 15:08, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Merger proposer's reply - I am absolutely in favor of keeping the bulk of the Tal's Hill article text, it's well written and would be an asset to the Minute Maid Park article, and I think there is plenty of room for it. I'm calling for a genuine merger here, not a delete and redirect. 73.32.38.72 (talk) 15:13, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: We could try merging (and pretty much keeping the Tal's Hill text) and waiting to see if any longform/detailed articles come out. As we go we could add more and more info to the Tal's Hill page until it becomes clear that it's becoming too much weight for Minute Maid Park. Then we can re-spin it into a separate article. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:58, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan to me, we've got 3 to 1 in favor of the merge, not to mention the consensus for merging back in 2007 (C of E's "I didn't know about the consensus" argument is a not compelling argument, and with 3 to 1 for merging now, it appears his "consensus can change" argument is a nonstarter. 73.32.38.72 (talk) 21:52, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. As you see, we've got a section on Tal's Hill in the article that has all the information the standalone article had: Minute_Maid_Park — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.32.38.72 (talk) 22:00, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hang on, you can't just agree with yourself that there should be a merge when the consensus does not exist. Besides this nomination is WP:STALE. IF you insist on pursing this then, make a proper proposal.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 22:07, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not "agreeing with myself", Oldsanfelipe supported merging as long as all the information was retained, which it was, and WhisperToMe obviously agreed with merging, as did GenQuest since he completed the merger, which you then reverted. That's four people in favor of merging, you're the only person opposing it. And your claim that the discussion is somehow "stale" and thus can't be acted upon, so I have to make ANOTHER merger proposal has absolutely no basis in wikipedia policy or guidelines, the WP:STALE link you provided relates to old unfinished draft articles on User Pages, it has absolutely nothing whatsover to do with setting some kind of expiration date for merger proposals. 73.32.38.72 (talk) 20:57, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

New Merger Proposal
According to Robert McClenon, we have to start this merger discussion all over again. So again, I propose that Tal's Hill be merged into Minute Maid Park. Tal's Hill is a no longer existing feature of Minute Maid, and the article on the hill is short enough and not likely to be expanded (again, since the feature no longer exists), so doesn't really merit its own article. All of the text from the Tal's Hill article is already in this article, so no information on Tal's Hill would be lost, and also because that information is already here, we know that having the information here has not and will not cause undue weight to be placed on Tal's Hill in this article. The standalone article is redundant. 2600:1700:D6E0:65E0:8400:D781:3985:AB45 (talk) 12:08, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support merger A separate article is undue for a feature in one ballpark. Yes, there was quite a bit written about it as it was so unusual, and therefore should definitely be discussed here, but it still was ultimately a feature of the ballpark, not an independent thing that needs an independent article. oknazevad (talk) 14:00, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support Merge: There is really no reason that this was reversed after being on the noticeboard for seven months —unopposed except by one person. Favor re-merge.   GenQuest  "Talk to Me" 19:09, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Support merge as it can be adequately covered here (and as a sidenote since it was a complete article as is this I'm not sure what draft is being referenced with WP:STALE). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:23, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Support merger: The Hill is no longer exists so, the opportunities for an un-merged article to be expanded are limited.Orsoni (talk) 20:55, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose: To merge this would be WP:UNDUE towards the Hill. The fact it may not exist any more is irrelevant when there are sufficient 3rd party sources for its existence. Indeed we do also feature unique baseball quirks with independent articles such as Green Monster and Monument Park (Yankee Stadium).  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 06:36, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: and, do you think it will be possible to make "Tat's Hill" as long as Green Monster and Monument Park? The latter two are much longer than Tat's Hill. As I said above, one could re-merge it just for now and then see if "Tat's Hill" can be lengthened to be point where it can be split off again, with a summary of Tat's Hill kept here. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think given that the Green Monster and Monument Park have been around for over 100 years and over 80 years respectively, and are parts of two of the most storied ballparks in the country, vs Tal's Hill which was only around for 16 years, in a much newer and less storied ballpark, and is no longer extant, no, I don't think a standalone article about Tal's Hill could ever be as long as either of the other two. And I think as Minute Maid ages and develops more of a history and legacy of its own, Tal's Hill will continue to diminish in significance. 73.32.38.72 (talk) 18:34, 25 June 2019 (UTC)


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On the National Register? Really?
How has it been that for almost three years, this article has claimed, through its categorization, that MMP is on the National Register of Historic Places, without anything in the article supporting it, without it being on the WP:NRHP worklist, or any of the four sublists of National Register of Historic Places listings in Houston. I mean, it was built in 2000, way earlier than the 50 years the NPS usually likes something to have before it will even consider listing the property. This should have been something that clearly needed citations before being added to the article and shouldn't have passed the smell test without them ..., who added this, is a quality editor, so this wasn't sneaky vandalism. The most charitable guess I can make is that there was some confusion between MMP and its predecessor, the Astrodome, which has subsequently been listed on the Register. But that still looks sloppy.

I am removing the two categories before they further embarrass the project, but really ... that's not enough; we need to understand why we made this mistake so we don't make it again. Daniel Case (talk) 20:56, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I think it’s because Union Station, which MMP was basically integrated into, has been listed since the 1970s. I’m not sure of the exact relationship between MMP and Union Station and I have no opinion on this specific matter, but I’d bet that’s where the intent of that edit was. Larry Hockett (Talk) 21:03, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Good that it finally has been fixed. Sorry.  I don't know what I was reading/thinking 3 years ago.  Hmains (talk) 03:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Crawford Boxes into Minute Maid Park
The Crawford Boxes are not notable independent of the stadium that they are a part of, similar to how the article on Tal's Hill was merged. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:08, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Aspect of the stadium, not independently notable. --Macrakis (talk) 21:28, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge I agree, they are not independently notable. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:33, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Agree with both statements above. Not independently notable and would fit well as a section on the larger article.SpokaneWilly (talk) 09:47, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Indeed, there is absolutely no independent notability for these. Unlike the Green Monster, they aren't well-known outside Houston. Songwaters (talk) 01:05, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ‘’’Merge’’’ not independently notable outside of discussion of Minute Maid, can be adequately covered in this article. 2600:1700:12C8:10:4104:BD7B:8AB8:993B (talk) 18:53, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 08:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)