Talk:Miranda Du

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Lead section
I have to disagree with your removal of the lead section. In general, a lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic—see MOS:LEAD. There is nothing in Wikipedia policies, guidelines, or precedent which supports your idiosyncratic view that a lead should not repeat biographical information "found in the next section". For most readers, the lead is the only section of the article they will read, so it is important that we summarize all of the body, not just the sections of the body after the first section. Courtesy ping to, since they were the main author of this article. Mz7 (talk) 08:06, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , thank you for your message. While I understand your point, I do not believe paring down a clunky lede to be idiosyncratic. Based on the pages of other judges, using this master list, it is not commonplace to include birthdate/place and education-related material in the lede – especially not in the first sentence. Selecting some similar pages at random, (William H. Steele (judge), Ralph R. Beistline, William Q. Hayes, Nancy J. Rosenstengel) the lede section of these pages do not include biographical material found in the first section. I am fully aware that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and that this is a "good article," but there does seem to be a reason that other District Court judge pages don't do this. KidAd   talk  17:07, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention one other point. Per WP:LEDE, As in the body of the article itself, the emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic. Du, like other judges, is notable for being a judge. She is not notable for where was born or where she went to college and law school. This material is an important material for a complete biography, but not integral to her notability. KidAd   talk  17:10, 7 October 2020 (UTC)