Talk:Miriam (actor)

Miriam is the Transsexual Porn Star Victoria from Bob's Tgirls
As of this writing you can see Miriam on the front page of Bob's Tgirls:

http://www.bobstgirls.com

She's the girl with the black hair and black minidress. Just in case the above page changes, you can see an archived version of it below:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050304030657/http://www.bobstgirls.com/

Miriam did her first photoshoot for Bob's Tgirls. She also did three videos for Androgeny. She goes by the name Victoria when doing porn (just Victoria, no last name).

On Bob's below Yahoo! group you can read a message where Bob, the owner of Bob's Tgirls (and also a photographer for his site), says that the transsexual porn star Victoria and Miriam (from There's Something About Miriam) are the same person:

From: Bob  Date: Mon Jan 9, 2006 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [Bob's Tgirls Yahoo Group] Victoria

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bobstgirls/message/499

Note that you have to become a member of the group to read the messages, but the group doesn't require pre-approval. Hence, so long as you have a Yahoo! account you can instantly become a member by joining from the front page at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bobstgirls/. Of course, it's free to join this Yahoo! group.

Within the male-to-female transsexual porn community (of fans, producers, and the models) it is a well-known and undesputed fact that Miriam and Victoria are the same person. Only someone who doesn't know much about the subject would despute that fact (unless of course they're being dishonest; I'm not saying anyone here is, I'm just saying this to be logically complete).

On Bob's paysite at http://www.bobstgirls.com in the Victoria section Bob also states that Victoria is Miriam from There's Something About Miriam, and he also has a collection of articles about her involvement with the television show there. Of course, Bob knows Miriam/Victoria personally; as well, he is the first person to photograph her professionally.--Jamie, 209.208.77.117 01:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * For more information on Victoria/Miriam, see the below HungAngels forum links:


 * http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=22441
 * http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=1960
 * http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=1857
 * http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=1314
 * http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=862
 * http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=841
 * http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=646
 * http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=593


 * Jamie, 209.208.77.82 21:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Citing sources
This is the background of the Star of TV show There's Something About Miriam. She has stared in at least 2 pornographic movies, which I can verify. Currently Getting title name of second movie. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacks246 (talk • contribs) -- Longhair 13:51, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * What is required to "source" the pornography list? Will links to the videos be enough or is something else required? &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.195.47.90 (talk &bull; contribs) . -- Longhair 13:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * That depends on where the list is, and who's credited as starring in the films on such lists. -- Longhair 13:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * She is not listed as an actor at the link (adult content) provided as a source. Reverting. -- Longhair 14:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * She IS listed, look under the performers section. Listed as her stage name Victoria. In the DVD cover she is the redhead in the top left. Viewing movie would also confirm her appearance. User:Jacks246


 * Earlier you added and redirected Victoria (TS} to your own user page, User:Jacks246. I deleted the redirect (from the Deletion log, 00:51, 10 January 2006 Longhair deleted Victoria (TS) (content was: '#REDIRECT Jacks246'). I'm not convinced. Please provide a direct link to the source, or the information remains omitted. -- Longhair 14:54, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The redirect was an accident, it was supposed to go to this page, a mistake on my part. Please give me some more details on what proof you will find acceptable?  This is a well known fact in the transgendered community.  Why do other pornstars non need linked proof for each movie they have been in? Jacks246


 * Please provide a direct link to your source. Readers of Wikipedia shouldn't be expected to research further. Also, why have you changed your ip address from


 * to
 * and again to


 * during the course of this conversation, yet signed your edits User:Jacks246, all inside of an hour or so? -- Longhair 15:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * *Le sigh* I did link to proof. If that is not acceptable please state exactly what you would want. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.107.57.48 (talk &bull; contribs) . -- Longhair 15:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Refer to the link in the heading above, Citing sources, or here. A direct link not requiring the user to search endless performer names would be nice. -- Longhair 15:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The link (above) lists 5 performers named Victoria.


 * Victoria Givens (18 titles)
 * Victoria Rose (2 titles)
 * Victoria Slim (2 titles)
 * Victoria Sweet (47 titles)
 * Victoria Vanoza (1 titles)


 * I'm going to impose a block if you persist with your blantant trolling. -- Longhair 15:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Block away, if you do not want to see the truth for what it is. If you paid attention you'd see that the actress is Victoria and not Victoria . As stated before viewing said title will also confirm this fact.