Talk:Mirror stage

Wallon
The french version seems much more fleshed out. For instance, it blames the neologism on Wallon, not on Lacan. etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.10.74 (talk) 18:10, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Mirrors
"The mirror stage describes the formation of the Ego via the process of identification, the Ego being the result of identifying with one's own specular image."


 * What if the society in which the child develops hasn't yet invented mirrors? The "Ego" can't be formed then, eh? :P 193.0.99.100 (talk) 14:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sure this obvious to most right-thinking people, but...                                      ...natural mirrors? Like H2O?--Moss Ryder (talk) 06:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The mirror doesn't need to be literal... 68.84.235.198 (talk) 01:03, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

That's the problem with Lacan, Freud, Jung and, frankly, pretty much the entire field of psychoanalysis.

Everything's metaphors for something, be it mirrors myth. In the end virtually none of this has ever been clinically test, or scientifically eatablished, and in many regards the entire field of psychoanalysis is based upon untested, even untestable, hypothese. Duckwalk71 (talk) 10:47, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Upon mirrors
Most of the this article appears to be directly lifted from answers.com here so needs paraphrasing with more refs. Julia Rossi (talk) 09:27, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

(lack of) neutrality
This seems to be written from a purely psycho-analytical POV, thereby assuming there is factual value in psycho-analytical concepts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.53.222.35 (talk) 10:23, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there needs to be a criticism section pointing out the following:

Lacan based his ideas on a 100 year old and completely outdated semiotic theory Lacan provides only two references concerning interaction with mirrors, and one was a 1920s study of chimpanzees. Lacan never explains what would happen if a child was born into a house that doesn't have mirrors. Lacan claims that only humans react to mirrors, but this is untrue, it happens to a lot of animals including some birds and insects. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.195.123 (talk) 00:24, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Lacan uses the mirror stage more as a metaphor for the infant's realization that it is not part of a coherent whole, that there is a difference between itself, the world, and other people. Davobrosia (talk) 08:27, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

You know, while the standard for Wikipedia isn't and shouldn't be psychoanalytic theory, the standard isn't and shouldn't be an uncritical positivism, either. -TED —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.182.180 (talk) 16:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Definition?
This article tells a lot ABOUT the mirror stage- it does very little to explain what this concept actually IS. I can infer that it involved mirrors and childhood development, but there is no comment about the child's mastery over its image, etc. This should be simply and explicitly stated in the first or second paragraph of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.130.194.101 (talk) 00:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

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