Talk:Miscegenation

Pompeii fresco
@User:The Glam Rock Joseph Stalin original research. This fresco from the villa of Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa does not depict miscegenation.

Could you please elaborate? Synotia (moan) 15:46, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Splitting Proposal
WP:SIZERULE says that this section "Almost certainly should be divided" because the section is 288 Kilobyte or Kilobit idk which one but still very large. Sebbog13 (talk) 22:27, 25 June 2023 (UTC)


 * yes Geysirhead (talk) 01:53, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support: I propose splitting into History of miscegenation with current regional and national headings; considering the term's offensiveness, alternative titles may be an improvement. Such split warrants reviewing current information to check for needed updates and inaccuracies. Exemplary is the Brazil section's semmingly original analysis of the 2010 census data and overreliance on Gilberto Freyre, an anthropologist and historian whose conceptualization of race in Brazil is controversial. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 23:45, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support: I just tried to read this article for the first time. It is very long, obviously, and it has an extremely offensive title. But it is also a very interesting and well researched discussion of the history of interracial personal relations.  (We need to come up with a better title stat; I thought about interracial relationships, but I don't know if I want to use that as the title for an article that has so much discussion of situations where an enslaved person or war captive ends up having an interracial child in a situation where consent is dubious or frankly nonexistent. There are similar problems with mating, a term we usually used to describe animals procreating.  Interracial procreation?  I don't know.  Splitting it up by culture or historical group might be good but since I am enjoying all of the sections together, perhaps having smaller sections that link to more detailed discussions of specific situations might be good. Because I'm a fast reader and there's no way I will finish this article tonight! Yaeltiferet (talk) 04:47, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * So in other words, you are attempting to obfuscate the reality of situation, by giving it a more appealing name? Sounds like white fragility. Raininja (talk) 01:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. Dear god this section. I could split it off now but which parts should be left in this article per summary style? PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, the entire section copy pasted into another article is still seven thousand words over the "you should split" limit on WP:TOOBIG (22,369). We might need to split the split by region. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:55, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Japan and racial attitudes
The Japan section here is at best outdated--and thus misleading. Japan, like France, for example, does not officially recognize race or ethnicity. If one holds Japanese citizenship, one is legally a "Nihonjin" (a Japanese), regardless of ancestry. So-called "international marriage" (kokusai-kekkon) is common and almost universally accepted. RoanSuda (talk) 11:02, 26 September 2023 (UTC)