Talk:Mishmar HaEmek

Hello
Hello!

The subject written in the article is a Kibbutz in Israel, it is not a person or anything, it gives information about the kibbutz to outsiders. I was asked to write short information about the kibbutz, I just don't know the best way of doing so in Wikipedia.

The Kibbutz took part in the Independence War for Israel in 1948, and I will add it tomorrow.

Please do not delete the subject.
 * Thank you for your article! Can you please add some references and cite some sources so others can verify and expand the content? It would also be great to get things like the coordinates of the place (Template:Coord provides a cool way to automatically link to map pages etc.). HAppy editing, Kusma (talk) 11:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment
Presently, we have the sentence in the article: "In 1924 the JNF bought some 30,175 dunams from Arab villages next to Nahalal in the western part of the valley. On this land, Sarid, Ramat David, Gvat, Kfar Baruch and Mishmar HaEmek were established."

I think this gives a wrong impression: as if it was the villagers themselves who sold the land. Afaik, the land was sold by absentee landlords; eg Sarid, Gvat is on land formerly owned by the Lebanese Sursock family. This should be noted, me thinks, Huldra (talk) 20:14, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * changed to "In 1924 the JNF purchased lands owned by Christian Lebanese Sursock family near Nahalal. After this, it decided to expand south and in 1926 purchased most of the land of Abu Shusha, where Bedouins and Turkmens lived."--Bolter21 (talk to me) 13:32, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, much better. I wonder if we should link to: "List of villages sold by Sursocks and their partners to the Zionists since British occupation of Palestine, evidence to the Shaw Commission, 1930," this was part of that Nazareth sub-districts-bulk of villages, me thinks, Huldra (talk) 22:15, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Name
Is there a policy on Israeli places to only give one form of the name? Ha-Emek and Ha'emek aren't wrong or even uncommon and should be mentioned somewhere in the article, no? — Llywelyn II   10:59, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thechnically speaking, the correct way to write it would be Mishmar Ha'Emek, but there is really no true way to write it. Israel officialy name it "Mishmar HaEmeq", but Israel's official English translated are inconsistent and shouldn't be dependent on. The reason why the comma is dropped off in many translations is because it is difficult to pronounce the 'e sound when it follows another vowel, so instead of pronouncing it "Ha-'Emek", people pronounce it "Haemek". One thing is sure, writting it "Ha'emek" is wrong, because "Ha" is the Hebrew for "The" and is connected to its subject, so in English translations, the subject is treated as another word, although still connected to "Ha". So in conclution, it should be spelled "Mishmar Ha'Emek", but it can also be spelled "Mishmar HaEmek" per the actual pronounciation.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:12, 3 December 2017 (UTC)