Talk:Miss Universe 2012/Archive 1

Iraq
TALAT MODEL MANAGEMENT As the organizer and owner of Miss Iraq, I would like to state that our titleholder will NOT compete in Miss Universe this year, we do have an agreement that Miss Universe will contact us once they are ready to accept us back in the future, until then we will not compete in Miss Universe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.224.12.91 (talk) 07:45, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Australia
How is Australia withdrawn from Miss Universe 2012?? Applications are currently opened for the pageant. Please get your sources right and it is a bit too early to do this page. Manhpham (talk) 08:14, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Representative from Norway
Still is not official who is going to be the candidate from Norway for Miss Universe. Delete that infotmation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.28.65.138 (talk) 22:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted because this article is harmless, besides why delete this if there are other articles that should be deleted where contest events will take place decades from now.--112.210.221.161 (talk) 10:02, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Host countrie for Miss Unvierse 2012
Acording to Global Beauties Venezuela and Chile are considered as a possibility to host the Miss Universe pageant in 2012. Here are the links

http://globalbeauties.com/blog/2011/04/venezuela-could-host-miss-universe-2012/

http://globalbeauties.com/blog/2011/05/chile-could-host-miss-universe-2012/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.28.65.138 (talk) 23:31, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Pristina, Kosovo, will be the sede of Miss Universe 2012. http://laesquinadelsoplon.net/?p=14978

The Candidate from Norway for Miss Universe 2012 still is NOT OFFICIAL...STOP PUTTING HER NAME¡¡¡¡¡¡ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.30.104.67 (talk) 15:47, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Global Beauties is not that reliable, wait until Miss Universe Organization confirms the host country before placing the venue. GrayFullbuster (talk) 05:08, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from, 7 October 2011
--Nimax114 (talk) 02:19, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Date for Miss Angola Contest
This is the link giving information about the date of Miss Angola Contest. Source: Angola Press.The articles is in Spanish.

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/es_es/noticias/lazer-e-cultura/2011/10/48/Miss-Universo-esta-Luanda,8f39eed0-8def-45d1-a19b-68a0663f50ff.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.29.174.152 (talk) 13:37, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Please do not add Bahamas as venue
I did a few searches, it appears that such news on Bahamas was just a plagiarized version of the announcement of Miss Universe 2009 venue. Please do not add the venue until MUO organization announces it.

If you compare the official announcement from 2009: THE BAHAMAS TO HOST THE 2009 MISS UNIVERSE® PAGEANT AUGUST 23rd

and the news that Bahamas will host the 2012 edition: The Bahamas to host 2012 Miss Universe Pageant on August 27th

its pretty obvious that the latter was almost 100% copied from the former and the date was just changed a bit. The fact that only Bahamas' media reported it makes it even more suspicious. GrayFullbuster (talk) 10:43, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Here's another suspicious clue: Some sort of press release from the MUO to Atlantis Resort, with a December 16 date

Very suspicious indeed--Cheetah255 (talk) 06:02, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Based on the comments of this blog entry "Miss Universe 2012 in the Bahamas again?", it really appears that it is a hoax, especially now that it is pretty easy to 'photoshop' stuff on the internet. Also a good point for requiring reliable sources like established news companies, and not accepting blogs and forums as sources. GrayFullbuster (talk) 06:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Host country announcement
Looks like another rumor...big thanks for the removed date and the semi-protection...no IPs to mess this up --Cheetah255 (talk) 20:41, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Indonesia is likely a hoax as well, I found that there is a template in the MUO that can be used to make hoax announcements. GrayFullbuster (talk) 14:14, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Norway
I thought Norway's representative will be selected at Førken Norge 2012???--Cheetah255 (talk) 01:44, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

NORWAY'S REPRESENTATIVE IS FAY TERESA VALBEKK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.57.30.175 (talk • contribs)

Not official yet, wait till Norway confirms her, THEN add her--Cheetah255 (talk) 22:46, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Aruba????
Who put Aruba withdrew, as there isnt even a Miss Aruba 2012 yet????--Cheetah255 (talk) 23:17, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Miss Aruba 2012 is elected, look at the page of Miss World 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.57.14.244 (talk) 13:48, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

That's Miss WORLD, not UNIVERSE...they have different pageants--Cheetah255 (talk) 05:34, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

No, Aruba always send the same delegate to Miss World and Miss Universe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.57.1.167 (talk) 13:33, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Gabon and Equatorial Guinea are fixed for Miss Universe 2012
Hey! please be consequence about Miss Gabon and Equatorial Guinea, they are fixed to compete at Miss Universe. Why it always removed on Miss Universe 2012 Wikipedia English version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.59.2 (talk) 12:38, 12 February 2012 (UTC) I AGREE WITH YOU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.57.16.135 (talk) 17:28, 12 February 2012 (UTC) I agree with you also! I think the problem is that they are not Latina countries. The Miss Universe Org. main page states that Gabon will be participating. Please stop being racist and bias and add them back! 71.12.77.180 (talk) 04:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Colombia!!

Daniella Alvarez Vazquez is 174cm not 173! please stop changing it as it is correct. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.23.143 (talk) 19:24, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Zambia is back
Miss Zambia 2012 will be choose June 26, 2012, and now Miss Universe Zambia organization is still selecting. http://www.missuniversezambia.com/ (The website update with copyright@2012) http://pageantcenter.com/pageant_calendar/international_pageants.html

STOP adding that Miss Philippines has won.
I would like to kindly ask people to stop changing the winner, best national costume winners as Miss Philippines as the contest has not been completed and it shows signs of immaturity. A winner shall be announced when the contest is taking place and not months before. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luis96 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE LOCK THIS PAGE
This page constantly being hacked with false information. Please lock it so ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.12.77.180 (talk) 14:45, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

AGREE 100%..! LOCK THIS PAGE, because Miss Universe is the greatest pageant in the World. I told u! I( also agree this list of the MOST UNBELIVABLE Nations has to stop PLEASE 1. Gabon and Equatorial are fixed to join Miss Universe 2012. For Equatorial Guinea: http://www.missosology.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=108272 http://globalbeauties.com/blog/2011/11/equatorial-guinea-may-compete-in-miss-universe-for-the-first-time/ http://livewireworld.blogspot.com/2011/12/lidia-avomo-miss-universe-equatorial.html and this is from Zimbio - The Official media from Equatorial Guinea if the country is fixed for Miss Universe 2012: http://www.zimbio.com/Lino+Sima+Ekua+Avomo/articles/NUpB13cpN0-/LinkLidia+Avomo+elected+Miss+Equatorial+Guinea.

2. Miss France is confirmed for MISS FRANCE Winner, because Miss France organization will send the Winner for Miss Universe!! They never say if 1st runner-up for Miss Universe.

3. Zambia is back!!! the pageant date will confirmed soon! u can see it from Miss Universe Zambia Organization!

4. Froken Norge Winner 2012 will represent norwat at Miss Universe, u can see it from their official Facebook! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.49.211 (talk) 10:50, 27 February 2012 (UTC) 5. is that true that the miss universe 2012 will be held on December 2012? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.20.222 (talk) 11:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Please add Australia, thier website state that thier national pageant will be held June 9th — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.66.233.42 (talk) 05:08, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Bulgaria is Fixed
Please add it as officially because LADY BULGARIA IS FIXED FOR MISS UNIVERSE, MISSOSOLOGY WAS PUBLISHING THE NEWS AND THERE ARE MANY PHOTOS WHEN THE WINNER WITH HER NATIONAL DIRECTOR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.59.63 (talk) 18:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I AGREE AND IT IS ALSO OFFICIAL FOR EQUATORIAL GUINEA, THEY WILL BE COMPETING AT MISS UNIVERSE, THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY EQUATORIAL GUINEA'S GOVERNMENT AND NEWSPAPERS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.57.147.172 (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you thank you,  I am so sick and tired of Bulgaria being now you see it now it don't nation, and also there is A OFFICAL DATE for Miss Universe Austraila which is JUNE 9th and it's on thier website

who KEEPS comming up with this CRAZY list
The authers can't even put Bulgaria OR Australia, but they can add Miss Black sea or Miss Tartarstan give me a break please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.106.227.8 (talk) 23:45, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

MISS UNIVERSE 2012
This article says it will be held on August 27th in the Bahamas

http://www.bahamaslocal.com/newsitem/38541/The_Bahamas_to_host_2012_Miss_Universe_Pageant_on_August_27th.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.224.29.120 (talk) 09:59, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hoax, please see my comments above. GrayFullbuster (talk) 08:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 April 2012
I clearly posted Miss Universe Singapore 2012 will be held on Aug 17 with a SOURCE, if you're lazy ass finds it hard to scroll to the bottom of the page then thats your problem! Here once again is the source http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.282776181804624.68203.278878545527721&type=

Those are not sources, they're just PICTURES!!!--Cheetah255 (talk) 19:23, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Carboy2244 (talk) 17:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌ See Identifying reliable sources. Facebook and other social media can only be used under limited circumstances, which do not cover event schedules. Dru of Id (talk) 17:40, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Statistics like height etc.
Personally, I think we should remove the height part and list down the names of the candidates. It just creates confusion as conflicting sources give different information regarding the candidates' height. GrayFullbuster (talk) 06:53, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Bodine Koehler did not represent San Juan, Puerto Rico. She represented Rio Grande, Puerto Rico.
There is a mistake in her data, she did not represent San Juan, she represented Rio Grande.

Here are some pictures with her sash !!!!



http://i52.tinypic.com/67ulmv.jpg



http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/13/88/27/03/31625310.jpg



http://egomoda.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/bodine2.jpg



http://www.rpp.com.pe/cache/q_85_g_8_c_n_p__picnewsa_748339.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.45.54.92 (talk) 00:00, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Portugal??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.166.72.182 (talk) 00:26, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

What, Portugal ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.57.151.109 (talk) 16:28, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Dulcita Lieggi up for deletion
Some user who obviously has no idea what Miss Universe is has placed Miss Dominican Republic Dulcita Lieggis article up for deletion. Please help save it.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:43, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Miss Lithuania 2012
Miss Lithuania is fixed! please (dont remove then add, remove then add..) oh GOD it's confusing the World.. please make it to be official, Eglė Štandtaitė was crowned Miss Lithuania Universe 2012. please add her name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.61.8 (talk) 18:41, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Still no venue?
This is getting weird, usually they announce the venue for Miss Universe at the end of the telecast of Miss USA. Hopefully, they'll announce it soon. GrayFullbuster (talk) 03:26, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Really, Giuliana Rancic said "See you at Miss Universe in December". I just hope they will announce it by the end of the summer.--Cheetah255 (talk) 23:54, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

From Global Beauties' Twitter page: "According to Miss Universe organizers, an official announcement about the 2012 host city should by made by the end of July"...That is going to cause a bunch of speculatiive edits--Cheetah255 (talk) 19:50, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from June 14, 2012
PLEASE remove Xbox Live from the broadcasters list....Obvious hoax, The guy who posted it thinks that because NBC "owns" the organization, the pageants can be streamed on there...It's really Mr. Donald Trump that owns the MUO and I dont really see anything about Xbox Live's "involvement"..thanks--71.58.55.146 (talk) 03:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Dominican Republic IS NOT YET CONFIRMED as host
Please see Washington Post, it only states they MAY be the host but it is not yet confirmed. And Washington Post is definitely more reliable than Global Beauties, so please stop adding the venue w/o official confirmation from MUO. GrayFullbuster (talk) 05:34, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Global Beauties announced today that "The Dominican Republic to Host Miss Universe 2012" via a "secure source"...im waitng until MUO confirms this, until then..nobody post DR as venue.Cheetah255 (talk) 01:32, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Global Beauties has never been an acceptable source for Wikipedia, unless there is a REAL Reliable source like Washington Post then it shouldn't be added. GrayFullbuster (talk) 12:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Titles of the Contestants
It will be interesting to add the titles of the candidates, but that is just an advide. I dont know, just an opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.252.43.117 (talk) 16:29, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * it's too much, so impossible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.62.97 (talk) 13:16, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It is possible. You can change the link on the name of the country on the title to the pageant article itself (for example this: Philippines). However, not all countries have their national pageant's articles, so that would be rather difficult. GrayFullbuster (talk) 14:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

NO CLEAR REFERENCES
Well. I'm editing the spanish version of the article and I have counting 52 contestants, and in english version are 56.

I beleive it's important check the references for the representatives of Serbia, Kazakhstan and Lithuania (there is not an official confirmation about her participation -hoaxs maybe?-) and France (maybe she doesn't take part of the competition). I'm pretty sure the exciting of some fans is the reason this information still be here.

I will working for put this delegates in an appart list, like we work at the spanish article. --Alex Duilius (talk) 18:39, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

LOCK THIS PAGE
LOCK THIS PAGE! Please.. we need clearly all things about Miss Universe 2012, please be official in English version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.62.116 (talk) 15:25, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Possible venue
Did I just hear this statement during the Miss Teen USA 2012 webcast: "we'll see you back here in December at Atlantis?" Here we go again!!!!--Cheetah255 (talk) 04:05, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

what about Bulgaria and Trinidad Tobago
will Bulgaria and Trinidad Tobago show up this yr ? and what of Equtorial Guniea are they dubeuting as well  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.101.126.2 (talk) 05:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

'''After doing some checking around...it appears that Miss T&T 2012 will be held in September 2012. I listed the link as reference and this should be listed in countries expended to participate this year with a open end dated in September. http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2012-07-22/new-queen-maker-town ''' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.37.206.167 (talk) 22:27, 4 August 2012 (UTC) I had problems with T&T flag...can some help me out with the posting of it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmeadows4u2no (talk • contribs) 22:53, 4 August 2012 (UTC)


 * 1 - Lady Bulgaria 2012 is still processing, they will confirm or not to join Miss Universe as new license from Bulgaria. SO be patient!
 * 2 - Miss Trinidad and Tobago 2012 will held on September or October, u can see on an official Miss T&T organization or their website. SO be patient!
 * 3 - Miss Equatorial Guinea Nacional 2011 will represent EG at Miss International 2012, may be Miss Belleza Guinea who participated at Miss World will take place and debut at the greatest pageant in this World (Miss Universe). SO be patient! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.48.20 (talk) 12:27, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Where is France ? Will they withdraw ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.144.137.227 (talk) 13:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Miss Universe speculation???
Why every time i check this article i see speculation, mostly from IPs: An MUO "lockout"?, Sun Life Stadium as venue?? Xbox Live???...EVERY TIME!!!!! 2013's page is same, because editors from the New York-New Jersey area keep putting MetLife Stadium as 2013's venue...This needs to be locked until the actual pageant has been held. Cheetah255 (talk) 06:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Date
An IP posted a December 11 date which is not official...do not post dates until officially confirmed by MUO or NBC...same with the New York City venue as it was a false rumor Cheetah255 (talk) 02:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Article has been protected by the admins (much thanks!) until December 15, hopefully such action shall reduce the amount of these unsourced info. GrayFullbuster (talk) 09:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

NEWS FROM RWANDA
Miss Rwanda will held on September 1st, some news said if Miss Rwanda will debut at Miss Universe 2012!! WOW!
 * https://www.facebook.com/MissRwanda2012
 * http://yegobprod.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=999:ku-cyumweru-tariki-1282012-haratorwa-abazahagarira-miss-rwanda-2012-mu-mugi-wa-kigali&catid=1:latest-news
 * https://twitter.com/MissRwanda2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.51.227 (talk) 17:29, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

That could be a pageant for Miss World 2013, not Miss Universe 2012 and social media is not that reliable. Cheetah255 (talk) 02:42, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

A possible Miss Ethiopia
http://globalbeauties.com/blog/2012/08/miss-ethiopia-universe-2012/

24.70.162.163 (talk) 21:49, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Please do not delete Miss France from list of contestants
Miss France Organization as many others like Miss Polonia, Miss Angola and Miss South Africa are making their national contests in December and not for that means they will withdraw from Miss Universe 2012. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonyjeronimo (talk • contribs) 12:52, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Miss France 2012 is in a date conflict with Miss Universe 2012 and Delphine Wespiser has to crown her successor at Miss France 2012, thus remdering her unable to represent France at this pageant.Cheetah255 (talk) 19:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Miss France is still meeting about the representative of France at Miss Universe (PLEASE BE PATIENT)! this year from the date is very confusing!
 * And also about Kazakhstan.. so do not be worry about either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdhimas (talk • contribs) 02:50, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Miss South Africa will also not be able to attend Miss Unvierse in December as she is obligated to crown her sucesor, the same situation with France. Melinda Bam participation is not official. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.31.14.62 (talk) 15:34, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Bam (South Africa) withdrew from Miss World 2012 just to focus on preparation for Miss Universe, so Bam is official, Wespiser (France) is unclearCheetah255 (talk) 04:50, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Miss Georgia Universe 2012
Janeta who represented at Miss World 2011 may be will represent Georgia at Miss Universe 2012, the national program in Georgia said like that, may be there are some news about that from Georgian??? is it true?? give us news. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdhimas (talk • contribs) 02:54, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Xbox Live
I contacted Xbox Support regarding the Miss Universe 2012 speculation, they stated that they did not have details about Miss Universe 2012 at this time and with the releases of Call of Duty: Black Ops II and Halo 4, this is highly unlikely. Please DO NOT post Xbox Live as broadcaster until official confirmation. Cheetah255 (talk) 03:05, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Miss Universe Kenya 2012
Is that true Kenya will be back at Miss Universe 2012?? any links? There are many countries in Africa Continent which returned at Miss Universe 2012!!! AWESOME! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdhimas (talk • contribs) 10:10, 13 September 2012 (UTC) Where did you get that ?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.144.14.198 (talk) 20:20, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 October 2012
Rina Chibani (Miss Lebanon) is actually a native of Zahlé and not Beirut.

94.187.7.84 (talk) 01:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 15:12, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Here are some sources indicating that she is from Zahle and not Beirut. http://www.lbcgroup.tv/news/52974/rina-chibani-crowned-miss-lebanon-2012-twin-sister http://www.lorientlejour.com/category/%C3%80+La+Une/article/780641/Miss_Liban_2012+%3A_la_prouesse_de_deux_beautes_jumelees.html One could also quote her facebook page.

MISS GEORGIA 2012
HEI GUYS!!! Tamar or Lika who will represent Georgia???? im surey confused about the wikipedia.. always movement... and its so curious.. everyone did contact with the Miss Georgia Organization???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdhimas (talk • contribs) 03:40, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Tamar is Miss Georgia Universe 2012
PLEASE ADD TAMAR FOR OFFICIALLY! She is Miss Universe Georgia 2012!
 * https://www.facebook.com/t.shedania/info — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdhimas (talk • contribs) 18:51, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Miss Universe Bulgaria 2012
Please add Bulgaria to the list of candidates. Miss Universe Bulgaria was crowned. Her name is Jana Yaneva. This is proof of her coronation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QhURvhcSLU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.31.114 (talk) 12:19, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Tgeairn (talk) 00:04, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Here is the evidence

FIXED of SENEGAL & COTE D'IVOIR
http://missosology.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=147435 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdhimas (talk • contribs) 18:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE DONT ADD ANYTHING
Hi! guys please do not add anything before it has a link about new candidates, such as a country which will be returns or withdraws.
 * And one thing that no news about Latvia will be return, we must be wait it, MU latvija has no confirmation about their return.
 * Portugal, Turks and Caicos and US Virgin Islands are still listing because Miss Universe on December. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdhimas (talk • contribs) 05:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)