Talk:Miss World/Archive 1

Number of deaths in November 22 attack
I'm confused. The anniversaries page for November 22 says over 100 people died in an attack aimed at Miss World contestants, but the Miss World page says, in a general tone, that over 200 people died. Were there separate incidents that added up? I need some answers. (Note: I only found this page because it's on my birthday) Maui Psyko
 * Technically, both could be true. For example, if 201 people died, that is over 200 people, but it is also over 100 people.  :)  --Cromwellt | Talk 17:01, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Cite it or drop it
Several entries in the article for Miss World are deficiently stated needing citations. If you can't produce a reference - with numerous existing web pages searchable on the Internet, then it has no business being in what is ostensibly an encyclopedia. Cite it or drop it. Period.

Ped Admi

Miss Earth as one of the Rivals of Miss World
Mr. Angelo De La Paz, you cannot undo the following statements in the article about Miss World: "Its rivals, the Miss Universe and Miss Earth pageants maintain equal popularity in some parts of the world, notably the Americas and Asia, and also by virtue of the fact that most countries in the world send the winners of their major national competitions to Miss Universe and Miss Earth pageants."

The word "rival" means a competitor, one who attempts to equal or surpass the other; it does not denote the state of being superior.

With your statement: "Only Filipino fanatics recognize Miss earth is equal with Miss World and Universe but mostly beauty experts are still not!", Your statement is based on your opinion, however, the statements that you're trying to undo has cited plenty of different references, as cited below.

Take note that Miss Earth's worldwide television broadcast in Star World gained the highest rating ever on any beauty event getting a phenomenal popularity rate. Elsewhere in the world, the pageant’s popularity has continuously increased. With more women wanting to become Miss Earth, the number of national Miss Earth pageant has grown on every continent as well. At present, Miss Earth holds the record of having the greatest number of national-level contests, and continuously growing.

Sources:

http://pressexposure.com/Miss_Earth:_The_Ultimate_Beauty_Pageant-4436.html http://www.grandslampageants.com/event_07earth.php http://mabuhayreviews.com/miss-earth-2007-press-presentation.html http://www.emiss.glt.pl/ http://www.grandslambeauties.org/me07/me2007.htm http://www.globalbeauties.com/earth/2007/e07.htm http://www.globmiss.net/earth.html http://missosology.org/ http://herfactor.com/component/option,com_news_portal/task,section/id,4/Itemid,276/ http://www.opmb.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.192.239.149 (talk) 02:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with you that is Miss Earth is one of Grand Slam pageants (others are World, Universe, International and Tourism Queen International) and Miss Earth is growing but only Miss World and Miss Universe are two most important, long-history International pageants and only these two pageants have been live broadcasting around the World with over 1 billion viewers per each.How about Miss Earth...live broadcast in the Philippines only and delayed broadcast after 1 months and only in some parts of Asia!And remember Star World is a cable channel and it is still not popular in some parts of Asia!

Miss Earth must do many things to gain more experiences, popularity, cash prizes, etc...because quality of Miss Earth pageant is still same level with Miss International and Miss Tourism Queen Int'l only.

From Global Beauties:



"...g) A weight is given to each of the 'big 5' women's pageant and 'big 3' men's pageants before points are added to determine the Grand Slam Ranking. Based on tradition, years of existence, television telecast and audience, production quality, press interest and number of participant countries, it was agreed that Miss World results would be multiplied by 2.0, Miss Universe results would be multiplied by 2.0, Miss International results would be multiplied by 1.0, Miss Tourism Queen International would be multiplied by 1.0 and Miss Earth results would be multiplied by 1.0;..."

And you could believe me that is Miss Earth winners will be the least as "Miss of Misses" of the year because many beauty experts have been feeling angry with Jessica Trisko and disappointed with Miss earth org.

Have fun!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 03:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Miss World Winners List
It seems that someone has confused the winner of Mrs. World 2005 as Miss World 2005. Miss World will not be crowned until 10th December 2005 in Sanya. Sima Bakhar of Israel was crowned as Mrs. World in January in India. Wexine

OK I had the information from another Wikipedia and my websearch for Sima Bakhar seemed to confirm the information. In this case, please unfreeze and undo. Sorry for the confusion. gidonb 09:42, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

2005 Pageant Info
it appears that this article has been bombarded with so much information about the 2005 edition. this is not a bad thing since it might have just been due to the hype by pageant enthusiasts before the event took place. a suggestion is to place this in a separate article (i.e. titled "2005 Miss World") and just hyperlink it here through the text "2005", similar to the olympic games articles in wikipedia. in that way, it can also be a "tradition" in pageant articles here to write about the yearly editions, but not to the point of choking the main article with a specific edition's data and information.


 * That is an excellent idea. It should also receive a better observable link though, e.g. the full name of the article at the bottom (see also). When there are more of these links, a standard referencing system can be made. gidonb 12:23, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

2005 Pageant Info Update
I moved the 55th Miss World Pageant information to a new article, click on the "2005" link in the winners' table.

Miss World 1993 Merge
Article Miss World 1993 should be merged into this article. 68.123.102.87 14:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I just linked the page to the "1993" text in the table of titleholders. Anyway, I thought I read this same article before from some webpage, in verbatim. So I think this is plagiarism... any reactions?Joey80 09:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

can we unmerged the 1993 page so we start an article about Miss World 1993?Wexine

Bob Hope's fate?
What happened to Bob Hope? The article states that he was "temporarily scared by a flour bomb"... Should this be scarred? Or was he really just temporarily scared?

Miss World year-by-year information
Hi, my name is Lex, I just started a Miss World year-by-year data. Please feel free to contribute and lets make a comprehensive data about the most prestigious and longest running global pageant.

Thanks

Remove re-direct for Miss World 2003
I'm quite new to this, can anyone remove the redirect for Miss World 2003 so a new article can be created. Thanks Wexine

Miss World Crown
Does anyone have any information regarding the composition of the Miss World crown? I think it will be best if we devote a section about the crown.

2 billion viewers?
The reference for this statement is a redirect to the official miss world web site. I'm skeptical. Unless a more reliable source is available, I think that statement should be cut. I find it pretty difficult to believe that 30% of the planet's population tunes in to watch the miss world contest. Northern Bear 16:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, I googled it. There appear to be multiple sources that put viewership at over 2 billion.  I'm shocked and amazed.  But I'd still like to see a more reliable source quoted than simply the shows publicity material.  Northern Bear 16:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * There's a weird tradition of heavily inflating the viewer figure for these kinds of events. It's event more common in sports. Google "billion viewers myth" and you'll find plenty of sources. 62.203.97.92 22:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * When I tried searching the net to find for a reliable source to the claim of 2 billion viewership of Miss World, numerous articless would come-out, the problem is, these articles do not appear to be truly reliable sources, but merely just reiterating the claim in this Wikipedia article, rather than detailing the specific statistics of viewers distribution to establish validity upon which the claim is made. These sources are simply regurgitating this very article's claims. The 2 billion viewerships is a hazy declaration to uphold; in order for the source to be reliable, it should be from a trusted source that clearly elucidates the basis. Simply citing an article that states it has 2 billion viewerships, without specific details is unacceptable.--Ped Admi (talk) 03:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * A reliable source should be able to establish the basis of the claim such as this . A claim that shows the final figure without going into details is not a valid source for this 2 billion viewers. In addition, the claim of having the "world's largest live annual television event" is highly controversial since the Olympic games have 3 billion worldwide viewers. --Jet Perry (talk) 03:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Advertisement
The alert on the article says: "This article is written like an advertisment". But I don't understand why this article looks like an advertisment? Perfectmiss (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Whenever you see an article littered with all those citation needed tags and alerts, it means someone has a stick in their ass about the article. that's all.  Zhokuai (talk) 21:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I checked the article and found out several peacock wordings such as “most widely attended and broadcasted”, “world's largest event”, “World’s biggest”, and etc. These peacock terms are advertisement in nature especially when there is no valid reliable citation to support the statement.--Ped Admi (talk) 02:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

MISS WORLD
IS THIS BROAD CAST IN THE UNITED STATES? IF YES ON WHAT CHANNEL ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.193.191.10 (talk) 17:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * For many years now, I have heard nothing about the Miss World pageant being broadcast in the United States. Nothing on the networks, nothing on syndication, nothing on cable. If they get a U.S. television contract, I am sure someone will comment here about that. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 09:35, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Unbelievably bad camera work in South Africa. Can we see the contestants in TV: not the show hostesses constantly please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.192.132.74 (talk) 23:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Movie
I would like to know if there is a movie about the ordeal that linor Abargil went through. If so what is it called.

Paula —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.48.138.130 (talk) 05:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Trivia section
Though I can appreciate the motives of User:114.78.39.32 / User talk:114.78.39.32 for removing the trivia section, actually this is one of the best trivia sections I have ever seen. It is well organized, with details and references and relevant to this article (instead of say the James Bond movies' articles). See the diff for the information in question. Yes, it could probably be better integrated into the text of the article instead of being bullet points, but having it all handy is better than removing it completely. Comments are welcomed. &mdash; MrDolomite &bull; Talk 22:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

What are the criteria for awarding the prize?
How is it decided who will win the Miss World-prize? How is beauty measured, i.e is there an ideal woman, and can a beatiful, but bald woman win, how many negative (or positive) points are given to a contestant with a space between the front teath? I'm told that onlye contestant who comply (and sign) to a ethical and moral code including not posing for nude photography can participate. Is this true, are there more rules, what about contestant convicted of criminal activity, maybe a speeding ticket? Peter Mulvany 22:31, 13 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mulvany (talk • contribs)

Others links
http://www.agiza.com/Miss World Video/Miss World 1991 - Ninibeth Leal/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.141.155.82 (talk) 21:41, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

More than 200 countries?
I removed the statement in the intro that the pageant is viewed in more than 200 countries for the following reasons: It has been dropped from TV in most western countries, as it is seen as degrading exhibition, and an insult to 50% of their population. The figures all appear to come from the organisation, in a desperate bid to advertise their 'product'. 79.70.229.244 (talk) 00:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)getreal79.70.229.244 (talk) 00:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) The sources provided don't state that it is viewed in more than 200 countries. One says "nearly 200", the other one says "200".
 * 2) There aren't 200 internationally recognized sovereign countries in the world. List of sovereign states says that there are "193 sovereign states with general international recognition". So "200 countries" would require the inclusion of some non-recognized countries and/or dependent territories.
 * 3) I know of at least one really large country where the pageant is not viewed at all because the pageant hasn't had a television contract for years: the United States. And I suspect that a nontrivial number of countries which don't send delegates to the pageant and are not major proponents of beauty pageants don't broadcast the pageant either, particularly countries in North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia. See File:Miss World 2008 Map.PNG and notice all the grayed-out countries which didn't participate. I'm not saying that those countries all refuse to broadcast the pageant, but I doubt that they all do, as would be needed to get close to 200 broadcasting countries. It would be easier to confirm the pageant's real broadcast situation if the pageant would put their international broadcast schedule on their web site, but they didn't even start to do so for 2008 (despite having a link on their web site for that). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Miss World
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Miss World's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "bbc": From Poland: "Russian parliament condemns Stalin for Katyn massacre". BBC News. November 26, 2010 From South Africa:  From Australia:  From Kaduna:  From Egypt: Country profiles: Egypt BBC From Miss International:  From Venezuela:  From Abuja: </li> <li>From Miss Israel: </li> <li>From China: </li> </ul>

Reference named "daily":<ul> <li>From Joanne Quintas: </li> <li>From Miss International: </li> <li>From France: </li> </ul>

Reference named "park":<ul> <li>From Stella Márquez: </li> <li>From Poole: </li> <li>From Miss International: </li> </ul>

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:53, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Do you need to finish high school before competing in Miss World?
Ebaychatter0 (talk) 05:46, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Julia Morley link
The Julia Morley link just directs you back to this page. It could be that she doesn't merit a link separate from the main theme. 86.183.206.77 (talk) 14:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I find this totally confusing, people are people, events are events, you don 't equate them Ebaychatter0 (talk) 06:54, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

By number of wins
The chart is missin the wins of Argentina. Someone put the data besides the title, which should be removed. --Nazroon (talk) 13:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

This article needs updating
"In Miss World 2013 all participants will ...". It is now 2015, so this sentence should no longer be in the past tense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timothy Cooper (talk • contribs) 06:08, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

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Patriotic Bias
Shouldn't one mention the patriotic bias exhibited by the Miss World and Miss Universe contests?

7 winners have been crowned Miss World on their home turf. In particular, all of the 5 British winners won the title in the UK (where the contest was founded):
 * 1961: Rosemarie Frankland (United Kingdom) was crowned in London, UK.
 * 1964: Ann Sidney (United Kingdom) was crowned in London, UK.
 * 1965: Lesley Langley (United Kingdom) was crowned in London, UK.
 * 1974: Helen Morgan (United Kingdom) was crowned in London, UK. (Subsequently resigned)
 * 1983: Sarah-Jane Hutt (United Kingdom) was crowned in London, UK.
 * 2007: Zhang Zilin (China) was crowned in Sanya, China.
 * 2012: Yu Wenxia (China) was crowned in Ordos City, China.

7 winners have been crowned Miss Universe on their home turf. In particular, 6 of the 8 American winners won the title in the US (where the contest was founded):
 * 1954: Miriam Stevenson (USA) was crowned in Long Beach, California, USA.
 * 1956: Carol Morris (USA) was crowned in Long Beach, California, USA.
 * 1960: Linda Bement (USA) was crowned in Miami Beach, Florida, USA.
 * 1967: Sylvia Hitchcock (USA) was crowned in Miami Beach, Florida, USA.
 * 1997: Brook Mahealani Lee (USA) was crowned in Miami Beach, Florida, USA.
 * 2001: Denise Quiñones (Puerto Rico) was crowned in Bayamón, Puerto Rico.
 * 2012: Olivia Culpo (USA) was crowned in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA.

Remarkably, all of the 6 Miss World winners and 7 Miss Universe winners from Venezuela won their titles abroad. That is, despite its small population, Venezuela is head and shoulders above everybody else in terms of wins outside their own country. What does this tell us? Miss patriot (talk) 09:24, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It tells us someone has been doing OR instead of looking for RS that discuss this. Legacypac (talk) 21:31, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

2015 Controversy not covered (yet)
[ http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/27/world/asia/miss-world-contestant-barred-from-final-in-china-over-human-rights-advocacy.html?_r=0 China Bars Anastasia Lin, Miss World Canada (and Rights Advocate)] - The New York Times.--Elvey(t•c) 20:13, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I added this controversy in December. Today I just noticed it disappeared. I am not sure why it was deleted. Will add it back. Marvin 2009 (talk) 02:53, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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Merger complete
✅ Information from List of Miss World hosts and invited artists has been merged into this article, per the merge result at Articles for deletion/List of Miss World hosts and invited artists. North America1000 09:12, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I know that you are going to accuse me of ad hominum attacks, but you are really giving me the idea that you have a conflict of interest here. The way that you are edit warring to get irrelevant and dodgy sourced info in the article is sad. If the info was notable, it would have kept its own article. You give it a massive undue weight. Merging is not copying the contents from one article to another. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 11:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I really do not care about these articles, in fact the whole beauty pageant idea turns me off, but I also can't just stand by and watch this without at least commenting. I appreciate the effort you have put in doing the merges and finding sources, however it has turned this article from a bad one to a terribly undue one. There is more information on the winners of the preliminary events than the overall winners. The list of hosts and invited articles can and should be summmarised in a few sentences, a paragraph at most, instead it absolutely dominates the article. Merging is a tricky process and requires a good understanding of the appropriate weight, where the information fits and how to present it. It is not simply a case of copying the entire content from one article to another. This is a perfect example of a poorly thought out afd resulting in a merge. Anyhw now that the merge is completed we can enter the normal editing processes and I would suggest that the lists (except for the winners) should be removed due to undue weight. AIR corn (talk) 17:45, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Disagree, the AFD was clear for a full merge, the article is not over-long, the overall winners have their own list page but perhaps their section should be expanded here for balance. Atlantic306 (talk) 19:50, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Length has nothing to do with undue. AIR corn (talk) 00:51, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you explain why a host or a (paid) artist is relevant for the pageant? And why are photo-websites regarded sources conform WP:RS? Especially with photoshop all around... <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 20:25, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * think people who want to know about Miss World would be interested in the presenter/ guests especially if they are well known like Bob Hope. Personally am not interested in beauty pageants as they are condescending to women in my view. Atlantic306 (talk) 21:47, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Consensus at the AfD discussion was for a merge. Perhaps the nominator should have considered the potential of a merge outcome before nominating the article for deletion in the first place. The nominator could have participated more at the AfD discussion, but instead, chose to only state four words in the entire two-week discussion. So, the nominator did not realize their desired outcome, and then twice redirects the List of Miss World hosts and invited artists article to this one without performing any merge (diff, diff), against the consensus and editorial decisions of other users at the AfD discussion. This type of unilateral decision making is inappropriate in this case, because consensus was for a merge, not a redirect.

Then, the nominator performed more unilateral actions against the consensus and spirit of the AfD discussion, twice adding the importance section template to this article (diff, diff). If other users agreed with this viewpoint, they likely would have !voted to delete the article, but this did not occur.

Lastly, I'm then accused by the nominator here and in their edit summary here with nonsensical, highly inappropriate aspersions of having some sort of COI, which is absurd, nonexistent, and will be ignored.

Regarding the content itself, I think the list format is functional to organize it, and the content benefits Wikipedia's readers with the provision of factual information about the history of the Miss World pageant. I also agree with the points made by above regarding the content.

This content would work as a separate spinoff and spinout article, and I would be fine with splitting it back out into a separate article titled List of Miss World hosts and artists, so perhaps this notion can be discussed herein. North America1000 22:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Split to List of Miss World hosts and artists as a functional spinoff and spinout article. Another option is to retain the content here. North America1000 23:16, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The fact is that it is a repeated sequence of you to restore irrelevant stuff with the most dodgy sources. Just like you did here. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 23:26, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * No, you're quite incorrect. New York Post, Vice, Manila Standard, Gulf News, Tiền Phong, The Telegraph, Belfast Telegraph, etc. are not "dodgy" sources whatsoever. Please stop casting aspersions here and elsewhere. Perhaps you should take some time away from this article and discussion if you're unable to contribute collegially and civilly. North America1000 23:48, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * And you skip a photo slideshow and several instances of Getty Images. That are sources not conform WP:RS, so I regard them as dodgy. And often (not this time) you use pageant-websites as Angelopedia, Pageantopolis os Missology to back up your statements with the excuse they source the statement. Perhaps you do not have a COI but they way you work and source certainly gives me that idea. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 08:14, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * No. I never add pageant websites to verify content, ever. You may be confusing me with other users. Regardless, you need to seriously stop casting aspersions here. Regarding Getty Images, newspapers routinely use their content all around the world, so I feel it's reliable enough to provide verification. North America1000 08:19, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, I have only used Getty Images when I am unable to find any other sources to verify content. The "photo slideshow" as you put it is a news article that has prose, and the prose content is what is used to verify content in the article. It would make no sense to not use this source because the article also happens to have a slideshow on it. North America1000 16:03, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

How about a serious trim of the list and converting it into a paragraph of prose. For example:
 * think the content is ok here as the article is not very long, the titleholders section needs expanding Atlantic306 (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

There have been many different hosts of Miss World over the years. The creator of the event Eric Morley hosted it himself from 1951 to 1958. Bob hope, Michael Aspel, Simon Dee. Keith Fordyce and David Vine all hosted the event at sometime between 1952 to 1974. Notable hosts after 1974 include Germaine Greer, Pierce Brosnan, Jerry Springer.... [add as appropriate]. Taiwanese-Canadian actress Angela Chow hosted the pageant from 2003 to 2015. From 1980 invited guest artists would also perform at the event, including .......[add as appropriate].

Almost all the host images need to go. This article is already overloaded with winners images and the images of the hosts are nowhere near significant enough to include verbatim. You need to be careful of the non-free ones too (not sure why they are here at all) as they need rational as to why we use them and there is virtually no good rational to use non-free images of living people (unless the policies and guidelines have changed since I last dealt with images). As fr the preliminary finals, those lists should at least be collapsed. AIR corn (talk) 00:51, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I prefer splitting the article back out to List of Miss World hosts and artists, rather than limiting valid historical content for Wikipedia's readers, which would essentially "dumb down" the content to too great of a degree relative to the coverage it has received in reliable sources. If a consensus were to emerge here to do so, I would be glad to perform this. Regarding images, I removed two non-free ones from the section. The remaining images in the section are properly licensed for use in Wikipedia. North America1000 01:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * A split would essentially be going full circle, considering the merge decision at the previous afd. AIR corn (talk) 01:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * That's why a consensus would have to be formed here first. North America1000 01:17, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I object against creating more spammy pageants-articles. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 08:14, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Interestingly, the topic of Miss World production has received significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. The content of this section would fall into the purview of this topic. As such, I also support the creation of Miss World production and moving the content of this section there, perhaps even more so compared to my suggestion above. North America1000 01:17, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * That seems a bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. AIR corn (talk) 01:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * How so? For starters, creation of a new article about a notable topic is a key part of Wikipedia. Expanding such an article with wholly-related content is also entirely functional per Wikipedia's purposes. North America1000 01:30, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I am not concerned about the creation of a new article. My concern is that the transfer of the host and artist content unchanged into that article will simply make that article undue. It won't really solve the core issue as I see it. AIR corn (talk) 01:57, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Upon consideration, I have removed the images from the table, which significantly shortened it. I think it's coming along now. North America1000 03:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Found this source here but its a bit confusing as for example it doesn't mention Bob Hope in 1959 or 1960Atlantic306 (talk) 03:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Check out this custom search on BBC Genome Project. This is providing a number of sources that can be used to verify content in the section, such as hosts of the pageants. North America1000 08:33, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Considerable coverage is not the same as being relevant. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 08:06, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Update – I have collapsed the table in the article, which makes the article much more concise in layout. If people want to view the content, all they have to do is select the "show" button. North America1000 04:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * That's a very good compromiseAtlantic306 (talk) 19:04, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. North America1000 03:31, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2017
Winner 1966: Reita Faria, India

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reita_Faria Rmenezes (talk) 05:42, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. It seems the table of winners only goes back 5 years. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 16:23, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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Commons files used on this page have been nominated for speedy deletion
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Why are pictures of all the African/Black winners excluded from the gallery of winners in the Miss World page?
Why are pictures of all the African/Black winners excluded from the gallery of winners in the Miss World page? This comes across as very racist by the contributor of that article and it should be remedied. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChyomaEsq (talk • contribs) 08:24, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

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"Deesset Mundi"
Someone who apparently knows no Latin attempted to make up a Latin name for Miss World and produced Deesset Mundi. Deesset is a form of the verb desum 'to be missing' and mundi means 'of the world', so it's a nonsense phrase meaning "might be missing - of the world". I've removed it. —Mahāgaja · talk 09:10, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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To full fill the complete list
You missed the name of Manasa Varanasi in winner of miss world beauty with the purpose 146.196.37.229 (talk) 16:25, 7 October 2022 (UTC)