Talk:Missing time

Working
I am currently working on expanding this. The article seemed necessary to me because the term is referred to in several other Wikipedia articles. Please edit at will but give me a chance to expand it before speedy-deleting it. Thanks! Mapetite526 17:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Still planning to edit this? It needs some major expansion. See my Keep comment below. Thanks! Misty MH (talk) 02:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Good idea
Expanding it, I mean. I came here to suggest just that.

The thing is, the article implies that the only causes of the phenomenon/perception of "missing time" are the ones listed: i.e. the individual is either attributing it to a UFO-related incident, or he/she is lying, or he/she is sick (with "seizures"), and/or under the influence of drugs. Well, no: I for one can remember at least one instance of "missing time" (around 20 minutes or so). I don't know how and why it happened, but it did happen: in what felt like a split second (the time it took me t turn around) it was suddenly 20 minutes later than it was when I last looked at the clock (I was expecting a certain event, so I didn't check just one clock but three, including the time displayed by a TV news channel). It happened in my very living room, in the middle of the afternoon, while I was standing up, perfectly healthy in all aspects (including my IQ), with no alcohol or drugs in my house, let alone my body. And BTW, I didn't even know that such phenomena are often related to UFO abductions (in which I don't even believe).

I don't usually get "personal" in my comments, but this time I made an exception in order to make it easier to understand my point.

Good luck.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.142.126.213 (talk) 02:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

xx Hi, I made a spanish version and added it to the language links! I also added a link! Best regards, Miguel Jordan (Michel), 010208

xxx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esiomajb1 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Mundane explanations?
This article naturally focuses primarily on the relationship between missing time and UFOs/close encounters, but it would seem beneficial to include information about phenomena such as "highway hypnosis." This phenomenon can result in a lack of memory of a certain period of time, but be entirely prosaic and unusual; I'd bet most drivers have experienced it.OrderSponge 22:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Gravity and time dilation
Um, wouldn't a gravitational field strong enough to cause time dilation also cause the people's bodies to either rip apart, and/or be smashed into the UFO? mackstann (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't try logic on UFO topics - the believers have a genetic defect which makes them immune to reasoning. This is a terrible article, over all. -- Nils Jeppe (talk) 22:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * somebosy should fix it, the article implies that the only explanation is a UFO, when missing time is completely normal, it can happen by just falling asleep without realizing it--189.202.28.95 (talk) 01:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I was going to add that this isn't the way real time dilation works, and the entire section is unsupported supposition and has no place in an encyclopedia. The article should be gutted to a stub until someone can produce legitimate citable resources. 12.233.146.130 (talk) 23:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * "Gravity is a constant. That is, the force of gravity pulling (an entity) is the same regardless of speed. However, centrifugal force increases as a function of speed.  If you increase speed around a turn to the point where centrifugal force exceeds gravity, (the entity can tip over/ lose balance/ spin out of control)."


 * Gravity occurs at a consistent rate, no matter what speed you are traveling at. The objects themselves therefore have consistent amounts of pull on each other as related to size regardless of time.  A lot of research has been appearing lately on life just being a projection of an "infinite" simultaneously occurring dimensions.  All around you, you see these projections of these dimensions.  You move through these dimensions with each thought or motion that you take.  You do have the ability to choose if you want to go higher or lower in frequency, but you must maintain balance.  The higher the frequency the faster your mind moves, but the more likely it will become unstable from opposing forces.  Some dimensions occur at higher frequency than others.  People (& most likely all living species) have the ability to fluctuate between higher and lower frequencies.  Our bodies and our minds are not necessarily bound to the same dimension at any moment, but they do constantly interact with each other.  Perception of time is in the mind, and gravity/space/centrifugal forces in the body.  The mind & the body also experience the same things as each other, but they each do it in different ways.  For ex. the gravity/ pull between ideas & concepts in the mind.  And degradation of our physical bodies as time passes (though continual degradation is not a guaranteed thing for humans as we defy the law of thermodynamics, so therefore time may only be experienced by the body when the mind has not yet reached the higher frequencies that can make relatively infinite.  " The definition of living things as things that "defy" the second law of thermodynamics" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics "Heat cannot spontaneously flow from a colder location to a hotter location." This is exactly what our body does, we collect and store energy so that it can be used to perpetuate ourselves."the second law is a consequence of the assumed randomness of molecular chaos."  I think not, as the universe must have found some stability and patterns to build off of, otherwise nothing would exist.)  When one comes in contact with entities that bend time and space to harness incredible powers and large amounts of energy, their perception is forced into a much higher frequency as per the first law of thermodynamics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_of_thermodynamics  "the internal energy of a system is equal to the amount of heat supplied to the system, minus the amount of work performed by the system on its surroundings."


 * Does the brain think at the same speed always, having time bend so that it can get in more thinking per moment, OR does our mind have the ability to think at much quicker speeds, which we can distinctly recognize as being different from our normal speed of thinking. If anything it is the first option.  Time passes faster & slower sometimes, when we are vibrating at higher frequencies/energies (powerful new mental thoughts/ physical experiences) time seems to pass by much quicker even though we are actually experiencing more thoughts per moment.  When you are excited you definitely think quicker, but so then why does time pass by so quickly?
 * UFOs would have the power to bestow upon us the ability to instantly jump to higher frequencies than we have ever experienced in our whole lives (beyond our wildest imagination). Much of it we cannot comprehend.  Such an intense moment would then cause the mind to jump to super high rates of processing (1000x+ than ever before), so this causes time to pass by very quick, as you are more excited than ever before.  Perhaps so quick that we literally jump dimensions through space & time to a later on period in time in our physical bodies.  Just being in the presence of these entities is enough to do this, while being abducted would likely have more dramatic effects.   The body never had the ability to reach the higher frequencies of the mind (as proven by shamans and numerous religious epithets) but together they allow us to have the ability to bend time on top of physical space.  Though most of it day-to-day is relatively unnoticeable, I'm sure you have all experienced this anomalously on some level.   Just because you haven't experienced these higher frequencies, which you logically know are out there, doesn't give you the reason to discount their existence or to be decisive to those who document such experiences.  If the truth were out in the open life would be nothing like it is today.  I fear that extraterrestrials question human beings.  We really need to make some changes if we want to vibrate at higher frequencies.


 * I do agree though that this wiki page should have more about other missing time occurrences (beyond UFOs), as they could truly all be related. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.66.134.206 (talk) 18:03, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Copy edited February 2009
AikiHawkeye (talk) 23:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposal for Deletion
This stub has no scientific basis or proof, and is included for anecdotal reasons, or by contributors with personal research motivations.

I propose deletion. (TresRoque (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2009 (UTC))

Keep. But it most definitely needs expansion. I can't believe it's so sparse! That does make it look anecdotal. However, it's not merely an anecdotal concept but a MAJOR concept in so-called alien abductions, a specific branch of Ufology. Misty MH (talk) 02:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC) Typos fixed. Misty MH (talk) 02:56, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Additional citations
Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 23:48, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * See my Keep comments above. Thanks. Misty MH (talk) 02:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

First Paragraph Modifications (No Evidence for Supernatural Causes)?
The first paragraph seems to imply that there is validity to the connection between missing time and supernatural events. Indeed, it seems to presuppose that supernatural events are a thing: "Missing time is a proposed phenomenon reported by some people in connection with close encounters with UFOs and abduction phenomena. It also can happen in cases of Poltergeists, Time Slips, and Paranormal events."

I think the second sentence should be changed to "Generally, these people also believe that the phenomenon can be caused by poltergeists, time slips and paranormal events". I'm going to go ahead and edit out the incorrect capitalizations and will be glad to edit the sentence further once a small consensus has been reached.

Furthermore, a sentence should be added to the end of the first paragraph that states something like "Currently, there is little to no evidence that suggests a connection between missing time phenomena and supernatural, paranormal, extraterrestrial or other pseudoscientific causes." JohnnyTopQuark (talk) 03:13, 1 December 2012 (UTC)