Talk:Missouri Bootheel

Loess
Supposedly windblown loess is the source of some of the deposits? While that would not make them truly "glacial" it is postulated that glaciers ground up rock into the powderly loess, is it not? And that some are hence aeolian and not all merely alluvial? (The point is basically valid and the correction a good one.)

Rlquall 19:42, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * There is a goodly amount of sand in the local soil, as well --- perhaps enough to cast some doubt on this assertion; however, mostly the topsoil is loam, the sandy sort, with a good bit of alluvial silt, as one can imagine, from reclaimed swampland. IANAE; the "loess" is probably lower.  Some think that this makes the soil ripe for liquifaction in the event of another large seismic event in the NMSZ. Renaissongsman 00:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Did quite a bit of reordering, addition of information. The "Culture" section language seems a tad balky to me, but I'm currently too braindead to think what to do with it. Renaissongsman 01:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Question
Can we get a map of Missouri with Dunklin, Pemiscot, and New Madrid county highlighted in red?

Geography
The Bootheel forms the biggest jog in a nearly straight line of state borders that starts on the Atlantic Ocean with the Virginia/North Carolina border extending all the way to tri-state border of Nevada, Arizona and Utah.

Isn't the "jog" at the Missouri/Kansas border equally large? At the Bootheel the jog is from 36°30' to 36°, while west of Missouri it is at 37°. Pfly 05:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for the "catch." The 37th parallel north is a nifty little jog since it places those states above 36°30' and thus not eligible for slavery by the Missouri Compromise (which in turn was nullified by the Kansas-Nebrasaka Act and Dred Scott Decision).  The Okahoma panhandle allowed Texas to drop back to 36 30 and enter as a slave state.  Americasroof 10:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Between 1893 and 1989, developers cut about 85% ...
What is significant about the year 1989? Why did developers cut timber for 96 years and then suddenly stop? It was obviously not because they ran out of forest. Was there legislation passed? Can the significance of 1989 be explained?

--Atikokan (talk) 02:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

This line makes no sense
"However, while these legends persist, the reality was that the Bootheel was first proposed and ultimately created under political pressure from wealthy landowners in the emerging Arkansas who wanted to liberate themselves from the government in St. Louis and govern themselves."

Wealthy landowners in Arkansas, wanting to *seperate* from Missouri, pushed for territory to be *added* to Missouri?97.91.249.83 (talk) 11:01, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

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Contradictory rationales
There are two separate reasons given for the existence of the bootheel in consecutive paragraphs. First we have this:


 * John Hardeman Walker, a pioneer planter in what is now Pemiscot County, argued that the area had more in common with the Mississippi River towns of Cape Girardeau, Ste. Genevieve and St. Louis in Missouri than with its proposed incorporation in the Arkansas Territory.

But then a paragraph later we have:


 * the reality was that the Bootheel was first proposed and ultimately created under political pressure from wealthy landowners in the emerging Arkansas who wanted to liberate themselves from the government in St. Louis and govern themselves.

It's hard to reconcile these two statements, and as noted above, the second explanation makes little sense -- how did the Bootheel help wealthy landowners in Arkansas stay free from interference from the Missouri government?

The second, more puzzling sentence does include a citation, but unfortunately it's to something in print that I can't follow up on right now. One possible reading is that creating the Bootheel pushed those areas that would have otherwise been in Arkansas but felt connected to Missouri out of Arkansas politics, which would put the rest of Arkansas on a more independent path. But anyone who has access to the cited material should take a look at it and see if there's some better explanation. --Jfruh (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Based on above, and this, I've removed the second sentence. There could be something to it, but I think it's better to remove the conflicting information for now.  SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨   02:12, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

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Tri state area
I just signed up for Wikipedia to point out that the common border between AZ, New Mexico and Utah as referenced towards the top of the article also borders Colorado. The only common point of those states is the “four corners” (look at the map).

I don’t know how to change it but figured I would point it out. Dpassam (talk) 22:48, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Not relevant here as this is about the Missouri Bootheel. Vsmith (talk) 03:00, 23 April 2019 (UTC)