Talk:Moby Grape

Great Talent Tainted by Hype
Not mentioned is the obscene press kit supposedly sent out with the first album. Most critics marked this event - the establishment attempting to be 'hip' - as the beginning of the end. It was an often used trivia question about the 1960s and passed down to our generation. Certainly someone can find something on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.221.98.133 (talk) 08:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, I can add this. I was the Music Editor at the Berkeley Barb when the Grape's over-the-top coming out party was staged. (And I do mean staged.) Never seen anything like it, before or since. Every press person who came in the door that night was handed one of those "obscene" press kits. Each kit consisted of a small box approximately 7x7x2 inches. The top of the box had a fuzzy velour imprint of the band's logo. Inside there were five singles, each in its own individualized picture sleeve (the LP cover art plus the A and B-side titles). I believe there was also a fancy booklet inside. Also in each box...a small bottle of wine!

It didn't stop there. As the band took the stage, 5000 purple orchids were tossed from the balcony onto the crowd below! Everyone, stoned or not, was pretty much blown away by that. But the orchids weren't much fun as the night progressed. As people walked on them they squished, eventually turning the dance floor into a slippery, slimy mess.

I don't recall how I reviewed the show at the time. I may have a tear sheet somewhere. I do recall the band sounded great, but the hype was completely insane.

Not mentioned on the main page, and definitely something that made the first LP cover memorable, was the infamous flipping of the bird on the washboard by Don Stevenson. When Columbia figured out what had sneaked past their art department, they frantically airbrushed it out. They may have recalled some of the original releases, too, to sanitize them (as Capitol had to do with 100,000 copies of the first Sons of Champlin album). In any case, LPs with the finger became highly prized.

Also missing from the timeline is a reformed Grape who played a gig at the Alibi Tavern in Kent, Washington circa 1979. I covered the show for the Daily Journal-American (Bellevue, WA). After the gig I was given a "bootleg" Grape LP on purple vinyl, which doesn't appear to be included in the discography.

24.17.242.5 (talk) 08:19, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

so... How was that presskit obscene? Or it just wasn't?

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Good info here
this story had good info, if some fan wants to update http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17498799 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.107.130 (talk) 23:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Article not written from a neutral perspective
Much of this album reads like a review in a magazine, making comments about the quality of albums and songs and the importance of the band without giving citations. It would be better if instead quotes were given from critics, and the article written to be more neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.188.141 (talk) 08:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Live Grape 1978
The Live Grape album recorded at the Shady Grove in San Francisco in 1978 was the last album to feature new originals by Miller, Lewis, and Spence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.192.0.72 (talk) 03:43, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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Matthew Katz vanity page
This page appears mostly to be a typo-ridden apologia written by Matthew Katz. Not really appropriate for this format, if I might be allowed to say so. Would suggest some thorough edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.59.151.116 (talk) 14:00, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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Opening Necessary Redundancy?
Is it so special that every member sang that we have to mention it twice within the opening paragraph?

I think it's not necessary to mention the singing twice, even though they are differently worded but it is highly significant that each member was able to sing lead vocal - and not just be able to sing. There have been solo albums by each of them, which I think is pretty unusual.Muso805 (talk) 14:52, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Chart error
Referring to the debut album, the article says "Omaha" was the only one of the five singles to chart, reaching number 88 in 1967. This seems to contradict the Discography section which says "Hey Grandma" made #127 on the Billboard chart. Unless the sentence means to say only one single made the Top 100. Muzilon (talk) 07:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)