Talk:Mocha coffee bean

Relation to Caffe Mocha
Does the Mocha coffee bean originating from Mocha, Yemen have anything to do with a caffe mocha, which is the chocolate flavored variant of the caffe latte, other than sharing the same name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:46:6:FF50:1867:13EB:D705:E652 (talk) 10:36, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Possible plagiarism
http://nuancecoffeeandtea.com/2012/03/history-of-mocha-coffee/ While doing topic research, I came across this Wikipedia article and a blog post that shares a large amount of wording with the article (see this comparison). After a quick look through the edit history, the article seems to have been created honestly. I believe the article may be plagiarizing Wiki content, but am not entirely sure how to proceed. Can anyone point me in the right direction or provide advice for handling a situation like this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinthrelkeld (talk • contribs) 20:53 & 20:5?, 29 June 2014‎
 * WMF uses its copyright on WP content keep others from claiming copyright, but allows redistribution with in practice few or no limitations, so it is very unlikely there's anything to worry about. Thanks for your diligence. --Jerzy•t 20:38, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Sanctions
Are the sanctions preventing sale of Mocha anywhere in the world, or just within USA? Because I just bought some Yemeni beans outside the US with no problems...89.74.48.29 (talk) 07:41, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * A lot of sanctions are unilaterally imposed by US, both bcz it's a big market even if no one joins in, and bcz few other large markets have as (relatively!) streamlined procedures for imposition. (And arguably the Big Stick Policy survives.) So probably no surprise here. Of course, if you declare them on entering the US....! --Jerzy•t 20:49, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Chocolatey?
So would the experts say "hints of chocolate"? (Awareness of mocha coffee is not new, since WC Fields orders a "mocha java" -- perhaps in the "Carl LaFong" film.) Or was the "mocha" concoction just a cheap substitute for the renowned Yemeni article, with its greatest virtue nothing more than the power of the name to evoke the satisfaction of imagining you were duplicating the superior "Mocha experience"? --Jerzy•t 00:55, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Global inadequacy
My first-hand knowledge pretty much stops with "coffee" being a flavor of ice cream, so all i can do is list shortcomings as an aid to someone who has the interest, background, and a feeling for where the relevant sources might lie:
 * 1) Cultivated elsewhere? The article doesn't say, but uses "native to" rather than "grown in" (which suggests intent to implicitly rule "grown" out). And whether it could be grown elsewhere is of far more interest than just the fact that Yemen is where the plant variety was "tamed" or bred.
 * 2) I was told as a kid just that "mocha" meant coffee + chocolate, and when i learned another sense, it seemed obvious that the exotic coffee had what wine snobs call "hints of chocolate". (Oh, and keep in mind that "obvious" doesn't measure up to WP:V.) Yet we hear only of "a distinct flavor." ... which, uh, we might presume has never been described more specifically than as "distinct" (probably the proper word is "distinctive"), which i guess is too vague rule out the smell of skunk, or the taste of bile....
 * 3) A careful reading shows "mocha" occurring solely
 * 4) * four times in the phrase "Mocha coffee bean", and
 * 5) * once in the name of the port,
 * and never in the context of "chocolate-doped coffee" or "a chocolate- and coffee-flavored comestible" (the failure of anyone to have disabused me of my parental instruction suggests those are called "mocha", for anyone who doesn't already know that), even tho it describes that beverage as having a "similar" name.

(The primary means for dealing with mocha beverage, tho -- and IIRC mocha ice cream &/or sorbet -- may be a stub for mocha (flavor), or a very short Dab page with a wikt link for the adjective and common-noun "mocha".) --Jerzy•t 07:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Paragraph on India could be worthwhile, but needs work
This paragraph on Mocha production in India was unsourced, the English needs a lot of help, and the sense was shaky. I started to try to fix it, but it needed more work than I had time for, so I'm putting it here. Ale And Quail (talk) 17:51, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

"The same Mocha Coffee Plant was brought from Yemen in 1914 and was first planted in Arehalli Village State of Mysore (Now Karnataka State) in India during the British rule. The coffee, which is grown in Arehalli from the plants that were planted from Yemen, is given another name that is "Arehalli Koffee" and it is said that Baba Budan introduced the coffee plant to India by bringing seven raw beans from the port of Mocha, Yemen."