Talk:Mocker (comics)

Requested move

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no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below, although sources proving the arguments presented here would be a helpful and welcome addition to the article. Dekimasu よ! 07:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC) To remove the indefinite article "The" from the entry's title, per Wikipedia naming guidelines. --Tenebrae 21:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have left a message for the contributor to clarify customary usage of the title. ●DanMS • Talk 23:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak support for the moment. We don't seem to be completely consistent in our naming practices here... The Flash, The Joker etc all omit the article and disambiguate, as proposed here. But we have The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, which don't. What parts of the naming conventions are relevant? Why are comic characters different to bands? Andrewa 07:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The Mocker is his name, like The Clash is the name of a band and The Bends is the name of an album, and The Dalles, Oregon is the name of a town. He is not a mocker, his name is The Mocker. Proper nouns don't follow normal naming guidelines. For example, you should always use and instead of &, but it's okay for Wolfram & Hart, because & is part of the actual name of the firm. Whoever moved The Joker was misguided. ~ JohnnyMrNinja {talk} 17:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. When reading the text of this article, you will see that he is always referred to as The Mocker. Customary usage should determine the title of the article. I concur with JohnnyMrNinja above that the move from The Joker to Joker was incorrect. ●DanMS • Talk 06:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I was just passing, so I haven't got a reference for this - I can get. I recall that the creator was pretty firm on this naming thing himself. When another creation, The Question, was to be published as Question he opposed it, seems obvious why to me. Btw, I think The Joker shifted to Joker as the years and idiom progressed.  Worth a mention there.  Fred ☻  18:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I checked the DC website, and as far as I can tell, it's still The Joker. The Question was there too. ~ JohnnyMrNinja {talk} 20:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hard copy would be better. I can dig it up if needed. Fred ☻  20:49, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Support, per naming conventions. —  SMcCandlish  &#91;talk&#93; &#91;cont&#93; ‹(-¿-)› 23:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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