Talk:Modern Defense, Monkey's Bum

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My information on the Monkey's Bum ends at 1977. Does anyone know where the Monkey's Bum Deferred comes from or when it gained popularity? Melchoir 07:27, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Is there a Template:chess that would feature a link to chess notation, and that would be acceptable to move into this article? I'm loathe to fiddle in an area I know so little about, but a link to chess notation early on would be handy. However, I can't see a smooth place to put it. It wouldn't do much good at the bottom of the page, and I don't want to just shove it in anywhere and start the heat death of this article. Skittle 16:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Knowing where you want to go, and clicking on the category links at the bottoms of the pages, the shortest route I can find to Algebraic_chess_notation is 6 clicks. It would be good to introduce this, and a link to chess, somewhere early to ease navigation and understanding. But again, I don't want to contribute to the drip-drip-drip of random phrases, and I can't see somewhere to put them unless chess opening in the first sentence is changed to chess opening. Skittle 16:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Okelly-dokelly, sorry for so much talking to myself. I have been bold and added the info, since this page seems rather dead (November, last post) and I had an inspiration above. Feel free to rejig, remove, create templates, add tiny writing at the top of the page, etc. Skittle 16:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks good! Melchoir 16:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'd rather get the explanation/link for notation in before the first use of it, but I don't see how to do that without spoiling the introductory flow. Skittle 16:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

"White will castle kingside and undertake an attack by means of the pawn thrust f2–f4"

You probably meant the d4-d5 thrust. As in Anand-Shirov and Polgar(J)-Shirov

Serious matters on the line here - accuracy is to be expected. 2A00:A040:1A2:70F9:FDC1:D42A:ECA2:93FB (talk) 18:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * "White will castle kingside and undertake an attack by means of the pawn thrust f2–f4"
 * Furthermore - White will not castle kindside. - In Polgar-Shirov AND Anand-Shirov, no one castled. 2A00:A040:1A2:70F9:FDC1:D42A:ECA2:93FB (talk) 18:18, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Correction: In Anand-Shirov White 0-0-0-ed. In Polgar-Shirov White didn't castle. 2A00:A040:1A2:70F9:FDC1:D42A:ECA2:93FB (talk) 18:19, 20 October 2022 (UTC)