Talk:Modern Family/Archive 1

Valid criticism?
There's a well detailed (but ultimately unreferenced) piece in the criticism of the show in this article that states the average house price for the kind of house the Dunphys live in and the average wage for a realtor, saying that it is unrealistic for them to live in that house. (There are references for the figures and values, but there is no reference to the source of the criticism aimed at the show.) It doesn't seem to hold weight, and I'm not convinced of its relevance/suitability for the article. I can't remember the family's history in detail, especially anything from the early days of their marriage, but there must have been a time when they didn't have 3 kids to look after, and presumably when they moved into the house it would have been considerably cheaper, given that many properties' growth was considerably higher than inflation. Phil does also have a very rich in-law, and unless this has been expressly addressed in the show, how do we know whether or not he made a contribution towards their property?


 * I agree, the criticism feels to be the opinion of the author of the criticism, and has no references to outside sources or established critics that hold this opinion. Wikipedia shouldn't be the place someone airs their personal criticism of a show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.225.114 (talk) 00:31, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to see a review
I'd like to see a review that calls the show the new Arrested Development, because even though it's a good show, it's not that good of a show. Jay Bones (talk) 09:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I second that on all counts and I removed the statement per but as it go;s on you begin to notise they are all the same. WP:BURDEN. – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  06:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for having beaten me to that. In the current media free-for-all, there are too many critics who seem to think similarity of show format (mockumentary) is automatically synonymous with similarity of show and show quality. Then again, although it borrows somewhat from the style, Arrested Development is not really a mockumentary either, not unless Wonder Years is to be considered a mockumentary as well. - Tenebris —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.156.88 (talk) 10:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I was really surprised to see this called a mockumentary(and multiple times). It's a sit-com without a laugh track, and with a few random "reality shots" thrown in.140.247.241.148 (talk) 07:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Well although this doesn't say that its exactly like it, it does draw comparisons, but ends saying that the "jury is still deliberating whether it's in the same class". Plus, there's about fifty other articles that basically say the same thing. I guess maybe wikipedia should wait on that comparison until everyone makes up their mind. | Tv.com 'Modern Family is the Best New Comedy of the Season' Dflav1138 (talk) 23:58, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes this is a Sit-com. Do people not realize Sit-com is short for situation comedy?--99.177.250.140 (talk) 23:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC) 'Italic text''

Location
I went to this page to look up where the show takes place. I'm not sure if it's possible to tell, but if it is, can anyone put it up on the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eje211 (talk • contribs) 12:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

It's set in Los Angeles. In one episode, Mitch and Cam go to a restaurant on Formosa Avenue which is in Los Angeles. Kiwidude (talk) 21:35, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

More evidence: Gloria, Jay, and Manny go to Santa Monica pier to fish and a bench ad for Phil's business has the area code 424 as a number, the area code for Santa Monica. Kiwidude (talk) 20:55, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

I just added some stuff from a Slate article which gives some more detail on the locations. Daniel Case (talk) 14:51, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

single-camera
You should not follow WP:RS to the point where they contradict easily-observable facts. I checked the latest as well as 101, 104, 107, none of it was matching single-camera.

Yes, I can see the mockumentary tools, even the panning and zooming typical to single-camera setups. They still use more than one camera. --91.55.207.102 (talk) 11:05, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Ratings
I'm seeing a lot of numbers but no translation into English. Are Modern Family's ratings good? Great? Bad? So-so? Ribbet32 (talk) 23:59, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * 10 million viewers is pretty good. Rank #36 is pretty good. 93.95.251.162 (talk) 10:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC) Martin.


 * Actually, the ratings are pretty amazing. These days, the only ratings that really matter are those of the adults 18-49 demographic, and in that range, Modern Family is the number 1 scripted series this season. 81.9.186.150 (talk) 16:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Ratings box
It is unencyclopedic to have a "ratings box" listing detailed statistical info for every single episode in the main article page. Might however be something appropriate for a list page. Cirt (talk) 14:39, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Awards table
The table showing all of the awards Modern Family has won or been nominated for is getting really long and taking up a lot of space. I would like to suggest that the table should be removed from the main article since there is already a separate article with basically the same information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatotherperson (talk • contribs) 04:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * No one objected, so I went ahead and removed the table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatotherperson (talk • contribs) 16:21, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Family Tree
Manny is listed as adopted by Jay. His mother marrying Jay does not make him adopted, it makes him a step son of Jay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.117.235.194 (talk) 16:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Lily was listed as "Lily Tucker-Pritchet." That was a good assumption up until Season 2, episode 17, aired on March 2, 2011, "Two Monkeys and a Panda," where there were at least two scenes between Cam and Mitchell regarding her name on the adoption decree. Her name was actually Lily Tucker Pritchett, but Mitchell did promise Cam to hyphenate her name. Did it ever happen? Kosherdill1 (talk) 02:24, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Salt Lake City affiliate won't air it
Is this still going on? Why isn't it mentioned in the article? (On a side note, fuck SLC.) --174.255.161.223 (talk) 20:03, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Update the litigation section
It's been resolved, I'd rather not put in the edit myself since i'm not a "pro" but I'll give you a reference http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/modern-family-actors-resolve-contract-dispute-with-studio ErdoSa (talk) 19:28, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Crossed out
In the family tree the children's names are crossed out. Is this intentional, and if so, what does it represent? Lord loss210 (talk) 20:08, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * They should be uncrossed-out and only put back if it is explained in the lead what it represents; even then they should not be crossed out and some other method of delineation should be used (as it just makes it harder to read). Feel free to fix it. King of Nothing (talk) 01:28, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I fixed it...hope it's OK now TeamGale 02:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Nope still crossed out.24.188.197.22 (talk) 01:49, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Lord loss210 King of Nothing I would like to help but I can't understand where the problem is...personally I don't see anything wrong on the family tree...I can't see any names crossed out. Can you take a screenshot of what you are seeing pointing the problem or something? That would help to solve it. Thanks TeamGale 10:34, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The process for putting up the print screen is rather confusing for me, what with copywrite and so on.
 * http://gyazo.com/18f63027dae5007006e924d09899a9b4.png, this is what I see. A few are crossed out.24.188.197.22 (talk) 15:34, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh my...! :(( I don't see anything like that. The tree looks perfectly fine to me with no names crossed out. Probably is a bug issue or something. If you can write about it at this page giving them details on what browser you are using, windows and skin they can fix it. (Thanks for the screenshot) TeamGale 18:49, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

That is exactly what I see as well! I'll also write something up on that page if another report will be of further help Lord loss210 (talk) 22:21, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Guests
Do we really need a full list of them or can we just name a fewNoD&#39;ohnuts (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)NoD'ohnuts
 * I dont have a problem with it right now, but at this pace it will be too big soon so we might as well start condensing it now. Unless someone thinks it's worthy of it's own article? Thatotherperson (talk) 00:20, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Well if know one is going to fight this I'm going to condense itNoD&#39;ohnuts (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)NoD'ohnuts

Yeh I know Kevin Hart was introduced as a character(a neighbor to the Dunphy household) in one episode I saw. Thats a pretty big name to miss in a guest section.I'll research to see if there are any plans for that character to be a regular or semi-regular on the show. He'd probably own too much of the comedy spot light as a regular though.73.176.113.121 (talk) 18:17, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Archived old threads
GA Reviewer archived some old threads.

Metric used was threads older than one (1) year.

This is in order to help assess any ongoing conflicts on the talk page for Stability issues.

And also to keep article talk page focused on current ongoing issues and Quality improvement suggestions.

Thank you,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 02:39, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Graph problem
The graph implies that child actress Aubrey Anderson-Emmons was present since season one playing the role of Lily. In actuality, twins Ella and Jaden Hiller played the role for the first two seasons, and the character suddenly "grew" in season 3 when Anderson-Emmons replaced them. Can someone alter the graph to include the Hiller twins for the first two seasons, and show Anderson-Emmons as first appearing in season 3? Currently, it implies Anderson-Emmons was there since season 1. 98.221.141.21 (talk) 16:34, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I added a note regarding that; and Pierce Wallace's portrayal of Joe Pritchett in 5th and 6th seasons as well. --  ChamithN   (talk)  16:58, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Issues with the family tree
There's some issues with the family tree if it is meant to show the different generations and their relationships accurately. Merle and Barb Tucker should be up on the line with the grandparents generation (Gloria and Jay's). Manny and Joe should also be on the same line as Cameron, Mitchell, Claire, and Phil, since Manny and Joe are uncles (step and half respectively) to Lily, Haley, Alex, and Luke. Unfortunately I don't know enough about the chart coding to do it myself.  Cat-five t  c   11:56, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

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Sisters of Dede
Once Jay has mencioned that Dede has two sisters: Bebe and Cece. Maybe they need to be in the family tree? OrviIIe (talk) 17:10, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Emmy Awards
In one section it says the show has won 22 Emmy awards and in another section it says 21 Emmy awards. Buckworm (talk) 03:37, 18 May 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅ good catch; I've corrected it.  Hoof Hearted (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2019 (UTC)