Talk:Mogwai/Archive 1

Film Score
I don't think Film score is a Genre so much as it is ... A film score, it still has whatever genre you consider Mogwai to be within it. So I am going to remove that from the Genre area.

Mr. Beast
I am as excited as any Mogwai fan about the upcoming album, but I don't think Mr. Beast needs a lengthy discussion on the Mogwai band page. Hence, I moved the album information to it's own article. It should be easily accessible to anyone wanting to read more about it. Imaginaryoctopus 23:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Mr. Beast
That Mr. Beast "apparently returns to the heavier sounds of 1997's Mogwai Young Team" is debatable. Conventional wisdom at this point says that it's more in line with their recent CDs. Hubajube 15:23, 9 February 2006 (UTC) In My opinion, saying that a band returned to any sound is debateable, because what they did during the period that they strayed from their old sound changed them. I could agree with the removal of that statement. CraigP 08:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

umm...
"and most other contemporary post-rock." isn't that possibly a little too sweeping for an ENORMOUS genre?
 * I agree; however, a lot of new post-rock bands have been influenced by Mogwai's sound to some degree, so I think it deserves mention. I reworded it slightly. Imaginaryoctopus(talk) 15:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay
Who was the smartass you linked the Mogwai lyrics? Im not saying it wrong to, but why? thats some funny $#1t it did make me notice that there's nothing in the article mentioning that they are an instrumental band (using the word instrumental seems a little harsh)
 * Well, it's really not that strange to put up a link to Mogwai lyrics. Sure, they're largely an instrumental band, but I believe there have been vocals of some sort on the majority of their albums. The songs "Yes! I Am a Long Way From Home," "Cody," and "Travel Is Dangerous" come to mind.  They don't choose to use vocals often, so when they do a listener is probably interested in what they are saying.  Also, the article does mention that Mogwai is an instrumental group in the second sentence. Imaginaryoctopus(talk) 15:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I figured this was the right talk section to bring it up in. I'm sure Mogwai have lyrics, there are lots on Mr. Beast for example, and I find the use of the phrase "lack of lyrics" in the article to be very misleading. My instinct when I see that phrase is to infer that the band in mention is completely without vocals and lyrics, this is clearly not the case for Mogwai. I think the paragraph containing lack of lyrics should be reworded to avoid misleading people and "They compose lengthy instrumental guitar-based pieces" should also be removed if "instrumental" is meant to mean "without vocals". I didn't want to make a dramatic change without consulting. Vicissitudo (talk) 23:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Controversy with Brit pop bands
I know they created some animosity with Blur and I heard they also made fun of Oasis on their site, does anyone else know what happen or wether it should be in the article? CraigP 21:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC) I'd also add controversy surrounding their bigotted religious views and their pretentious 'ned' act despite the fact they all when to private school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.203.225 (talk) 20:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC) All went to Private School? This is utter fiction. Jared (talk) 12:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I think there should be a section on their twatty comments about other bands. I recall the desperate 'Blur is shite' campaign attracted a lot of music press attention in 1999. They had a line of tee-shirts which courted similar controversy. Perhaps the section could suggest it was the band's attempt to obfuscate their own shortcomings.Decampos (talk) 19:33, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Discography section
Excellent disco section! stampit 30 Jan 2007
 * Why, thank you.Daisy-berkowitz 19:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC): How could you have forgotten "My Father My King" 200164.126.140.199 (talk) 02:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)tinnitus

Mogwai Young Team
The official title of Mogwai's debut LP is actually "Mogwai Young Team", not just "Young Team". I've changed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.223.47 (talk) 17 May 2007
 * It was changed back. The official title of the album IS "Mogwai Young Team". Check their official site. I've corrected it again. Wetdogmeat 01:49, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * For crying out loud... Is there some way to stop the name of "Mogwai Young Team" constantly being changed back to the INCORRECT "Young Team"? Wetdogmeat 21:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Band image
I know it is free, but it also isn't very good. Can anyone source a better one? --John 15:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC) What's wrong with the one in the discography? its better than nothing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ledzeppelin1 (talk • contribs) 05:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Mogwai referenced in Ian Rankin books
I'd never heard of Mogwai until I read several references to them in an Ian Rankin book (particularly Come On, Die Young). If anyone can add something useful about this, a small note about this connection might be valuable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.69.108.159 (talk) 07:08, August 21, 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm going to add a small note on this aswell as a mention of Ian Rankins desert island discs choices including Rage:Man by Mogwai. Vicissitudo (talk) 12:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

In The Media
I think this section contains too much "listing" and could perhaps be cleaned up. It appears unreadable in the current format and could use some organization. I am going to work on a new format to make it more accessable to readers.--Startstop123 (talk) 19:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't mean to step in :-). --Soetermans (talk) 20:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

EP+6 Split Up?
EP+6 was recently added in the Discography section. Though it is composed of EPs, it is technically a compilation album/EP. Should it be split up into its 3 EPs (4 Satin, No Education = No Future (Fuck the Curfew), and EP)? —Anunnakki (talk) 11:16, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

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Moves
There were a couple of major problems here.
 * Practically all of the incoming links to Mogwai were looking for the band, rather than the fictional character(s). This is because when the article was created in 2004, it was about the band, which was only later split out.  This means that when readers follow the links for those articles, they end up at the wrong page.
 * Most of the remaining links were looking for the Gremlins character, which was half-way down the page and invisible to the reader when they arrived. This causes confusion.

Therefore, I have boldly done the following
 * Moved Mogwai (band) to Mogwai.
 * Fixed all links pointing to Mogwai (band) to point to Mogwai.
 * Moved Mogwai to Mogwai (Chinese culture)
 * Split out the part about the Gremlins character and moved it to Mogwai (Gremlins)
 * Created Mogwai (disambiguation) to prevent multiple "see also" sections.
 * Fixed the small number of links to Mogwai that were actually looking for the Chinese or Gremlins character.

Therefore, all links now point to the correct article. Black Kite 01:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I oppose separating the Chinese mogwai from the movie mogwai for a few reasons, including (1) the movie mogwai is obviously based on the Chinese mogwai; (2) the movie mogwai isn't notable on its own; (3) the mogwai (Gremlins) article has no references and is redundant to Gremlins. 24.64.165.129 (talk) 17:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's the least of the issues, to be honest. The movie mogwai may or may not be clearly notable on its own, but at the very least can be merged into a Gremlins article and the links updated.  My moves were designed to fix the hundreds of mis-directed links to the band (which is by far the most common search term). Black Kite 18:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Brendan
I'm quite sure that Brendan never actually played drums for Mogwai, even though he is a drummer.Fusion1224 (talk) 11:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)