Talk:Mohawk Valley formula

Disputed ??
I dont see any discussions here; so how can the article be disputed? --ArazZeynili 18:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm trying to look up this document. As there is no link to a 'primary source,' and since I can't find one, I shall edit it to make it less strong. The references to the document seem to be secondary sources at best, most from labor unions or other organizations with agendas.  That being said, the concept of the Mohawk Valley formula appears to be an important one even if the facts about the case are unsubstantiated. 130.39.188.130 (talk) 17:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well it should say "attributed to" the NAM rather than "published by" as there is no primary evidence of the NAM publishing it or the supposed author authoring it! Hugo999 (talk) 01:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Please see this link. It is leads to the US Department of Labor's glossary. In it you will find a quote explaining the "Mohawk valley formula". My position is that even if a copy of the original is not extant there is enough correspondence from the time which refers to the Formula that this indicates that it was a REAL document that had been circulated. This is not untoward in terms of scholarship. We know, for instance that there were many works from Aristotle that were lost in the fire at the library at Alexandria because contemporaries mention the work in their writing. The passage regarding the original should be removed from the article, or it should be justified with a statement that "the editor's have not found an original copy of the document, but there is ample evidence that it was in fact real because of contemporaneous mention in industrialists correspondence" I can hunt down the quotes if you would like. I would point you to a book by David Montgomery called "The fall of the House of Labor" if you wish to find that material on your own. Xtopher1 (talk) 21:56, 10 March 2013 (UTC)xtopher1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xtopher1 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Also I would like to know why the first section is uneditable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xtopher1 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Seems similar to 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion', albeit from the other end of the political spectrum. This needs more concrete sources, or needs to be more accurately labeled as propaganda. 69.40.42.47 (talk) 04:33, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

It's quite obviously a fake written by a TU activist, and not even a very good one. "Causing the community... to forget that employees have equal rights with others in the community"?! --81.152.112.81 (talk) 12:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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