Talk:Mohawk hairstyle/Archive 1

Notable hawks
I wonder if the notable hawks section is really nessessary. At the very least the section should maybe have a diffrent name. Maybe something more like "Celebrities with mohawks" becuase really most of the people in that section don't have anything about their hawks that makes their hawks particularly notable, they're just random celebrities with mohawks. Thoughts? Lyo 21:00, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Some do have some special traits about them, for example, Mr T. He also pities the foo' that don't be respecting his chains (which are now gone : Jackpot Den 23:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it should be sorted through and then given explinations about what makes their hawks more notable than others besides that they're famous. I feel like people who just had a mohawk for a little bit shouldnt be there unless their brief period was somehow notable. Lyo 22:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Also the notable fauxhawk list should probaby be moved to the fauxhawk article and out of this one. I'm going to do that now Lyo 23:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Another note about celebrities with mohwaks; I just noticed that Angelina Jolie's son, Maddox has one. As well as Clinton Portis, of the Washington Redskins. DJ Citizen D 19:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thought about adding www.mohawksrock.com to the list of links since there is good information there and all about mohawks, but am afraid it may be bad since it is a social network. Since I'm new to posting on Wikipedia, I guess this is the best place to ask. Cheyennejack (talk) 04:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)cheyennejack

Help removing wood glue from hair!
My son has put elmers pro bond wood glue in his brothers hair to create liberty spikes. We can not get it out! Any ideas?
 * I shouldn't laugh at this but I can't help it! First, don't use glue next time, it really fries your hair. Especially not wood glue. I suggest cornstarch boiled into water at a 1:3 ratio for spiking up mohawks (sorta like gelatin with no animal suffering involved, but it won't get good long term results like glue or other things will, and it may start to flake). As for your current predicament, try baking soda (or maybe it was baking powder) and hot water. I'm not sure if it will work though. I remember reading about using that and rubbing it in really well for getting out elmer's school glue. Never tried it though. And I'm not sure if it would work with wood glue. If that doesn't work, call a hair dresser, they might know. Or maybe a temporary skinhead look. If you're afraid of possibly being mistaken for a Nazi, wear a bandana or hat till some hair grows in (that's what I did after I cut my mohawk off). Tell me if any of this helps. The Ungovernable   Force  07:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * try dish soap i've used that to get shit out of my hair before --Display Name 21:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment on:"In some countries short mohawks are used only by nazis and it´s not at all asociated with punk culture."

As much as I know some neo-nazis shave their hair bald and are a subgroup of the skinhead rather than of the mohawk hairstyle.

Cultural Appropriation
I think someone should add some text about the history of the Mohawk hairstyle, and cultural appropriation of it.

I think it`s funny,that DeNiro never actually shaved his head for the Travis Bickle Mohawk. So it was actually more faux to make it look like a shaven head than not shaving the rest of the head.

Merger
I propose merging hoxton fin into the section about fauxhawks. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think it is just a regional synonym Green hornet 06:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It does seem a bit like that. I second. Electriceel 11:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * They are not really synonyms. The hoxton fin is between a fauxhawk and a mohawk.  It has more definition to the ridge than the faux, without going all the way to the mo. PaulJones 21:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * They're not synonyms, but the hoxton fin can probably fall under the umbrella of mohawk without being a seperate article. That is, it'd be a section in the mo article E lectriceel  [ Talk ] 04:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hoxton fins should stay where they are. Despite the in-between, its more like a bad fauxhawk. 147AM (talk) 21:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Chelsea Hawk
It looks like the picture of the chelsea hawk (shaven mohawk, but with bangs) is really a faux hawk (not all shaven), but with her bangs dyed so they looks seperate. So, anybody got a better one as this one is actually a chelsea hawk? Electriceel 14:08, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Reverse Mohawk
"Reverse Mohawks are Mohawk haircuts in reverse (the opposite of a Mohawk), essentially a shaved straight line (usually wide enough for a disposable razor or electric hair clippers) from the forehead to the nape of the neck leaving hair on either side of the line. This haircut is also known as an Antihawk, HawkMo, Skunk, Highway, Nohawkand Polish Mohawk. Famous Reverse Mohawk wearers include Road Warrior Hawk, one half of The Road Warriors, and Keith Flint, vocalist for The Prodigy. It was also sported by the fictional character Fraker in the movie Death Wish III. Alien Ant Farm singer Dryden Mitchell sported a less dramatic Reverse Mohawk, where he had a thin, long triangle shaved into the middle of his head, reaching to his crown. These suck."

Umm. . . POV anyone? (last sentence) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.245.134.65 (talk) 08:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC). I just threw up there a picture of me last year with a reverse mohawk lol :)

First Comeback
I randomly came across this picture

http://unitproj.library.ucla.edu/dlib/lat/display.cfm?ms=uclalat_1387_b160_53894

Notice how it is dated 1951? Has anyone came across any articles dealing with the first comeback of the haircut?

jdoe9898 May 30 2007
 * I know a few jazz musicians had mohawks in the fifties, but there's not a lot of information on it out there. It should be looked into though. ~  Swi tch  ( ✉ ✍  ☺ )  03:01, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

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Connection to the Mohawk Nation
Did the Mohawk nation traditionally wear this hairstyle or not? The article says that the Wyandot wore it, not the Mohawk, but the Mohawk nation article says that that it is a traditional style among the warriors of the tribe. Which is it? Asarelah 04:55, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The French do not call the Mohawk hairstyle an "Iroquois", Iroquois is a language family to which the Mohawk people belong. So I took it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahjijawk (talk • contribs) 00:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Classy Mohawks?
I've seen styles lately but I can't find pictures. They're kind of like the "lazy mohawk" (just a thick mohawk that's never erected) but they can be styled to look almost like a classy, chic style. Does anyone have any clue what I'm talking about and have a picture? RedAugust 21:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Not Mohican
The Mohicans did not have spikey hair !!

Even the film The Last of the Mohicans showed the Mohicans with long hair somtimes in a plait !!

Please be advised that no one should properly call a Mohawk ( hairstyle )a Mohican. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domnal5 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Regardless of whether the Mohican people did or did not sport the hairstyle, mohican is the British term for it, and mohawk is very rarely used. PaulJones (talk) 07:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

special mohawks
who the hell did this section? most of this is either made up or just not notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.29.11 (talk) 13:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Sun Hawk?
I've never heard of it being called a sun hawk. I have frequently heard it being referred to as a cross hawk. Comments? Werner ghost (talk) 10:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC) the sun hawk is a mohawk that has regular scene/emo guy bangs and then in the back is a mohawk. it is not a mohawk that goes through the middle of your head. it is a mohawk that rises up in the back, like a sun. which brings us to why they call it a sun hawk. this hairstyle is very sexy and very hot for scene and emo people this season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.118.110 (talk) 01:03, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Iro
Why does "Iro" redirect to here? 30daysinAKK (talk) 06:27, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

"Iro" is the short form of the german name for the mohawk hairstyle, "Irokese", which means "Iroquois". That being said, I don't know why it should redirect here. 91.15.242.122 (talk) 02:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


 * The article says "The mohawk is also sometimes referred to as an iro in reference to the Iroquois". I can find no evidence of this online, just lots of pages copying the claim from Wikipedia. Equinox ◑ 13:04, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Cheers, . I've tagged it as being "dubious" per WP:OR, and have removed the link from the DAB page, but may submit the redirect page for deletion dependent on whether there is any evidence of the connection outside of WP:CIRC (and per WP:WINARS). The purpose of any Wikipedia article is to be encyclopaedic, not to create its own mythology. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:13, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Please check the other language versions of the page. I'm Polish and can say "Irokez" is the word for this hairstyle in our language, almost never "mohawk". This name can also be found in Polish, Russian, German, Ukrainian and Finnish languages, for instance. While the "iro" is apparently seldom, if ever, used and does not appear in dictionaries, irokez/iroquis is the word in many languages and should not be removed itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.242.117.250 (talk) 17:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the Europeans were more culturally astute and PC when they adopted the hairstyle (along with various interpretations of the punk culture and political ideology), but it emerged as a punk 'fashion' in mid-70's Britain, and was most certainly called a 'mohawk'. Punk was picked up elsewhere around the globe at a later date, but the origin and name of this DIY hairdo in recent history attests to 'mohawk'. This is English language Wikipedia, and the WP:COMMONNAME in English is definitely and undoubtedly mohawk. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 19:19, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Ukrainian Cossacks?
"When going to war, 16th-century Ukrainian Cossacks would shave their heads, leaving a long central strip. This haircut was known as a khokhol and was often braided or tied in a topknot."

This paragraph contains several errors: 1. The haircut in question was never called khokhol in Ukrainian. This is in fact a Russian word and an ethnic slur for Ukrainians. 2. This haircut was worn by Ruthenian warriors at least since 9th century, in particular, by cossacks at least through 16-18th centuries. 3. The cossacks used to wear this haircut all the time (not only during war), as this was a sign of a warrior and a matter of pride.

Furthermore, this haircut is totally unrelated to the Native Americans' traditions. Therefore, the aforementioned paragraph along with related image of a musician should be removed or at least corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.77.145.174 (talk) 00:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Mohawks in China
I want to add a bit about infants and small children wearing this hairstyle in China. It is not that rare. I can provide images and dig up sources, but would like to know first if it would fit into this article. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:20, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Trihawk
"Trihawk" is the brand name (and company name) of a three-wheeled car built in California in the 1980s. I would like to create an article on this automobile but noticed that such an article has already been deleted once. As Trihawk is simply a redirect here, I would surmise that there is no particular reason why the vehicle shouldn't be considered the main topic for the title. The word "Trihawk" currently does not even appear in this article. See also WP:PTOPIC. If anyone wonders, I started this conversation here as I imagine that there would be very few contributors to the talkpage of a redirect. Naturally, I am not suggesting restoring copyvio material. Best,  Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  07:46, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm certainly in agreement. Then again, I'm a gearhead and I took the photo above :) - A l is o n  ❤ 08:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

UK-Centric
Why is there any reference to the United Kingdom and the evolution of the Mohawk? Other than 1980's punk groups, they should be nothing more than a side-note. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.33.25.132 (talk) 08:01, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Image of the Clonycavan Man
Is the image of the corpse of the Clonycavan Man really necessary on this page? Okay I get that Wikpedia is WP:NOTCENSORED but seeing the image was still kind of distressing (not to mention I was eating).--Prisencolinensinainciusol (talk) 22:07, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Tagged for original research
Per various comments above, I've tagged this article for original research. Parallels drawn between other historically recorded hairstyles and the style worn by the Mohawk people is entirely unsupported by reliable sources. WP:NOR is a Wikipedia policy, and is not optional.

I was only going to tag the history section, but the thread of original research runs through the lead and other parts of the article. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 20:56, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

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Photos from 1900
How about the haircuts on this two undated photos from around 1900?: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49024304@N00/24678766364/ --Kyopy (talk) 19:17, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Eh, I don't that adds anything new to the article, and it's little bit of a stretch as well if you ask me. Also we already have far too many images in the article as it is. Damien Linnane (talk) 22:46, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Pazyryk/Scythian reference not supporting claims on page?
The page currently makes the following statement under the "Historical use" section: "Artwork discovered at the Pazyryk burials dating back to 600 BCE depicts Scythian warriors sporting similar mohawks. The body of a warrior occupying one of the kurgans had been scalped earlier in life and wore a hair prosthesis in the form of a mohawk" with a citation to Rudenko's book Frozen Tombs of Siberia. However, nowhere in the book does the author claim that the man in the artwork has a mohawk (Rudenko says, "he has a fine head of curly black hair" p. 275), nor does he describe any hair prosthesis of the man in barrow 2 as a mohawk (in fact, Rudenko only describes a false beard and says the man's head has been shaved, and the head of the man from barrow 5 is shown similarly, albeit with a ponytail-like tuft near the base of his skull).

It seems like a contributor to this page really wanted to establish a mohawk tradition from this culture, but I cannot find any actual evidence bearing this out, and certainly not from the source purported to demonstrate it by that editor. 2600:1700:F281:750:8F0:4D93:110C:7DDF (talk) 21:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * They book doesn't have to use the term Mohawk, but if the only reference to hair is 'a fine head of curly black hair' then all coverage of it should be removed entirely from this article. Personally I've always thought the unreferenced 'Pazyryk warrior with mohawk haircut, 300 BCE' image was bordering on original research, since it just looks like hair to me. I'm removing both for now. Damien Linnane (talk) 22:37, 18 January 2022 (UTC)