Talk:Mole people

There is use of ""surface dwellers."" (quotation marks are used in text), is this phrase used in Deus Ex? If not (I am fairly sure it is not) the quotation marks should be removed.

I have expanded this stub somewhat but it would be good if someone who has access to relevant literature/has studied this subject could expand it some.

I seem to remember a romantic drama series filmed in the 80s called Beauty And The Beast (or similar) which featured some sort of subterranean society similar to some of the bolder claims from the urban legends about mole people. Some additional literary references (eg: HG Wells' The Time Machine may also be appropriate.--ChrisJMoor 15:11, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

..."It has also been suggested that these have developed their own cultural traits and even have electricity by illegal hook-up" -- The documentary Dark Days concretely establishes that at least one illegal electrical system actually existed, so it's probably safe to strengthen the language on that point. --anon 17:22, 24 Jan 2006

This may or may not be the right place but somewhere info on abandoned subway lines and tunnels in NYC should be added.

The section regarding the movie Daylight is incorrect. The movie clearly mentions that the chapel was part of living quarters for the construction workers who made the tunnel. --Jeff

Disambuigation page?
It's my feeling that the whole "Mole People" thing needs disambuigating. Some of the links mentioned are clearly related to the urban legend, but others are only related by virtue of being about 'people living underground'. Particularily the 1956 movie has very little to do with the idea of subterranian New Yorkers. Banality 04:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, break it up. You can't tell fact from fiction here.--futurebird 12:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Mole people as monsters possible intro?
Fear of the homeless has caused some writers and filmmakers to create monsters based on the idea of mole people. These films, TV shows and comic books have been criticised for dehumanizing the homeless people who have sought shelter undergorund.futurebird 22:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Disambuigation page
A Disambuigation page has been created under Mole Men.76.81.194.199 00:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Dark Days
Why isn't Dark Days listed in the body of the article? It's a lot more significant than, say, a reference in an episode of Futurama. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.208.120.38 (talk) 02:56, 25 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, it is an entire documentary based on mole people. The movie contains detailed footage of the underground encampment, as well as many interviews with the people. It also shows the inside of some of the rather elaborate structures. I would think that the movie would go very far in backing up the veracity of the mole people.WackoJacko (talk) 15:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Spam?
This...

The Las Vegas Channel 8 News sent their Eyewitness News I-Team with Matt O'Brien, the local author who spent nearly five years exploring beneath the city to write the book, Beneath the Neon [external link].

...seems like spam to me. People might disagree with me so I left it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AllThatJazz2012 (talk • contribs) 11:21, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Trivia section
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==Media portrayals==

Both types of Mole People have appeared in different media appearances:

In comics
one of their primary villains, The Rat King, live permanently in the New York sewer system. men called the Moloids who live in Subterranea. superhuman mutants, known as Morlocks after the H. G. Wells characters, who live in the tunnels below New York City.
 * The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, as well as their sensei Splinter and
 * The Marvel Comics character Mole Man is the ruler of a race of mole
 * The Marvel comic book series X-Men has featured a society of

In film
(Chronological) of archaeologists who discover the remnants of a mutant five-millennia-old Sumerian civilization living beneath a glacier atop a mountain in Mesopatamia. They use humanoid mole men as their slaves. post-apocalyptic world, wherein survivors live below Paris in the galleries of the Palais de Chaillot. 1995 remake entitled 12 Monkeys. "Crazies" - underground-dwelling cannibals. cannibalistic humanoids that come up from the sewers and prey upon the citizens of New York. Ninja Turtles (film)]]'' based on the comic, the Turtles and their Master Splinter live in New York's sewer system, however they are forced to leave their home when the Foot Clan discovers their lair, though they later return there to take on the Foot and The Shredder. Ooze]]'', it is revealed they abandoned their lair as the remaining Foot members are aware of it, began living with April O'Neil in her new apartment, but later discover an old abandoned subway station which they turn into their new lair. The station and subway cars remain their home throughout the reminder of the film and serves as their lair in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III. It is also the Turtle's lair in the live-action TV series, Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation. The abandoned subway station, is actually based on real-world decommissioned New York subway City Hall Station, of the former Interborough Rapid Transit company. However, the station is not completely abandoned as it appears in the movie. Trains currently pass through the station daily as they turn around to head uptown, passengers are allowed to ride through the station, but the train does not stop and so they cannot disembark. located in the sewers. (film)|Delicatessen]]'' (1991) are a group of vegetarian rebels who live in the sewers. character Edgar Friendly is the leader of the homeless “Scrap” people who live in the underground “Wasteland,” or the ruins of old Los Angeles. underground in New York to cover the homeless community living in the Amtrak tunnel as well as the NYC subway system. It was awarded the Nombre D'Or Prize for Best Documentary in 1995 by the International Broadcasting Conference's Widescreen Film Festival in Montreux, and also received the United Nations' UNESCO Prize for Best Direction, Human Rights Programming, at the 1995 International Electronic Cinema Festival in Amsterdam. preyed upon for use in medical experiments. group of people living in an abandoned section of the New York City underground railway system, in the area of the so-called Freedom Tunnel. who call their home "Scum City". In Search of the Mole People), explores the lives of people who lived in the New York subway tunnels.
 * The 1956 science fiction film The Mole People (film) features a party
 * The 1962 French science fiction film La jetée is set in a
 * An underground community of survivors is also seen in Terry Gilliam's
 * The 1981 John Carpenter film Escape from New York features
 * The 1984 horror film C.H.U.D. portrays mole people as mutated
 * The 1985 film Subway featured mole people.
 * The 1990 film ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990 film)|Teenage Mutant
 * The 1991 film ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the
 * The 2007 film TMNT, the Turtles and Splinter live in a new lair,
 * The "Troglodistes" in the French black comedy film ''[[Delicatessen
 * In the 1993 film Demolition Man, Denis Leary's
 * Outside Society, a 1994 short documentary film by Steven Dupler, went
 * In the 1996 film Extreme Measures, a community of mole people is
 * Marc Singer's 2000 documentary, Dark Days, follows a
 * The 2006 film Urchin features a society of mole people
 * Vic David's 2008 documentary, Voices in the Tunnels (formerly titled

In literature and publications
(Alphabetical by author's last name) society based on the assumption that people in NYC moved underground to escape biological warfare. Maxime Chattam features communities of people living underground in New York City, including the "mole people" who live in the lowest parts. Jennifer Toth's book is cited by the author. the Flock (a group of genetically altered children) take refuge in an abandoned subway tunnel in New York City, meeting up with a young mole person and observing other mole people living there as well. (series)|Gormenghast]] series features a poor, displaced, underground society who live in an area known as the "Under River". fiction|sci-fi]]/horror novel Relic and its sequel Reliquary deal with mole people living in numerous communities in the subway tunnels, sewers and service tunnels beneath Manhattan. secretive gentlemen's club in New York that turns hunting of humans into a sport in the tunnels under New York City. people below New York. Jennifer Toth is discussed above, under Urban folklore.
 * The novel Enclave by Ann Agguire which features a post-apocalyptic version of
 * The novel La Promesse des ténèbres by
 * In the James Patterson novel Maximum Ride: The Angel Experiment,
 * Mervyn Peake's 1959 novel Titus Alone of the [[Gormenghast
 * Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child's [[science
 * The 2001 novel The Manhattan Hunt Club by John Saul is about a
 * Neal Shusterman's 1999 novel Downsiders features an entire city of
 * The Mole People: Life In The Tunnels Beneath New York City (1993) by

In television
(Alphabetical by show title) episode called "The Molemen" that featured a race of humanoid moles. The Molemen are an evil society of giant moles who live underground, led by the evil King Mange (voiced by Allen Swift) and plan to conquer the world by stealing all the food in the world, thus making everybody weak, sluggish and without energy. With this advantage, the Molemen and their ants would have no problem conquering the world. As Sweet Polly was investigating the thefts, she was captured by King Mange, and Underdog was called to rescue her, but he was succumbed to the Mole-Hole Gun, the Molemen's secret weapon. Afterwards, he was captured. King Mange threatened to destroy Sweet Polly if Underdog didn't do what Mange said. Underdog got Polly free, and had the answer to everyone's energy problems. He filled every water reservoir in the world with his Super Energy Vitamin Pills, filling the water with tremendous energy. Soon after, the citizens had enough energy to escape the Molemen attack and the Army had the strength to fight. King Mange was eventually defeated and arrested. the Bottom of the World" and "Spider-Man Battles the Molemen," there was a race of Molemen who fought Spider-Man twice when they were duped by a criminal named Mugs Riley (who disguised himself as a Moleman) into abducting buildings from the surface. "Tarzan and the Land Beneath the Earth" had Tarzan ending up in the underground city of Terrapolis which is inhabited by a race of Mole People who have been abducting the Mako Trees on the surface in order to power their city's furnace. people on Third Earth that are humanoid moles. series)|Beauty and the Beast]] featured Vincent, a lion-like man who lived among a group of homeless people in the tunnels of "The World Below" which is beneath New York City. (fictional)|mutants]] living in the sewers of New New York, which are actually the ruins of the present day New York City. series)|Bones]], entitled "The Woman in the Tunnel", the team worked on the dead body of a woman doing a documentary on mole people. fifth-season episode entitled "Control" of the television series Law & Order: Special Victims Unit. (season 4)|fourth-season episode "In The Dark"]] of ''[[Law & Order: Criminal Intent]]''. fictionalized dwellers in their world of "London Below", who are literally invisible to those who dwell aboveground. one episode, who leaves his girlfriend with only his clothes to remember him by. This causes a stranger to ask the woman if she is wearing "Moleman perfume." deaths. Charlie (Henry's ex-girlfriend), she asks "what about the mole people" when Betty assures her that riding the Subway is one of the safest ways during the snowy weather. homeless people who live in the Las Vegas storm drain tunnels.
 * In the 1964-1973 cartoon Underdog, there was an
 * In the Spider-Man episodes "Menace from
 * In the 1976-1984 cartoon Tarzan, Lord of the Jungle, the episode
 * In ThunderCats, there is a race of mole
 * The 1987-1989 television series ''[[Beauty and the Beast (1987 TV
 * The animated television series Futurama has a race of [[Mutant
 * In the first-season episode of the television series ''[[Bones (TV
 * A community of people living underground in New York City is featured in the
 * A similar community is also shown in the [[Law & Order: Criminal Intent
 * Neil Gaiman's 1996 television series Neverwhere depicts highly
 * The show Upright Citizens Brigade features a "Moleman" character in
 * In Johnny Test, there is a race of Mole People that are led by Zizrar.
 * A running gag on The Simpsons is Hans Moleman. He suffers multiple
 * In Ugly Betty, season 1 episode 16, in a conversation between Betty and
 * In Criminal Minds, season 9 episode 17, the BAU investigates a ring of

In video games
people living in a hidden tunnel adjoining Brooklyn Bridge Station. dystopian Las Vegas dwell throughout the metro and sewage tunnels. Russians dwell in the miles of metro underground due to nuclear winter and mutated beasts that roam freely above-ground and constantly attack the dwellers underground. MXocrossIIB (So, you were saying?); 22:20, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * In the game Deus Ex, the protagonist briefly visits an enclave of mole
 * In the game Fallout: New Vegas, post-apocalyptic residents of a
 * In the game Metro 2033, post-apocalyptic

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Another fictional group...
were found in the Beauty And The Beast TV series (starring Linda Hamilton & Ron Perlman). They lived in tunnels below New York City. All started as refugees: from persecution, from abusive backgrounds, etc. 96.82.150.137 (talk) 22:44, 26 July 2023 (UTC)