Talk:Mollie Hunter

Redundancy?
I suspect that Patrick Kentigern Keenan (1963) and The Smartest Man in Ireland (1963) are the same book. Can anyone tell for sure? Thmazing (talk) 00:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree, relying on WorldCat records:
 * "Formats and editions of The smartest man in Ireland"
 * "Formats and editions of Patrick Kentigern ..."
 * Apparently The smartest man in Ireland was the first U.S. edition (1965) of the same book. Illustrations by Charles Keeping were retained. One record for the smartest man gives publication and copyright dates thus "[1965, (c) 1963]". I suppose that's correct.
 * The US Library of Congress evidently holds only a 1996 U.S. edition (San Diego: Harcourt). It provides this Publisher description quoting a New York Times book review. ... by Ethna Sheehan, published 28 November 1965, citing New York: Funk & Wagnalls.
 * Neither the LCCatalog nor the NYTReview confirms the previous publication under another title.
 * --P64 (talk) 22:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The latest revision (before my visit) writes this conclusion into prose Stub and cites Open Library.
 * I refashioned the redundant listing in section 1.1 Novels. --P64 (talk) 00:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Four more titles
Each of the first three is "A Charlotte Zolotow book" from Harper & Row (New York). The first two are picture books by a prominent American illustrator. --plausible candidate picture-book editions of earlier short stories written by Hunter (see the next section).
 * —1983, 47pp; ill. Marc Simont
 * —1985, 32pp, ill. Marc Simont
 * —1988, 118pp, unillustrated(?)
 * —1994, 59pp, ill. Donna Diamond

The fourth is from HarperCollins (New York), the successor to Harper & Row; no mention of Zolotow or another editor-imprint; short enough to be a picture-book ed. of an earlier story (see the next section).

I discovered these four titles by comparing our list of Works with her top twenty in WorldCat library holdings. Our list includes sixteen of those Top 20. Considering the other issues reported here (Talk secs 1, 2) I report here rather than add any of the four to our Works. --P64 (talk) 00:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Internet Speculative Fiction Database
 * ISFDB: The Mermaid Summer clearly resolves that one so I added it to Novels.
 * ISFDB does not help with the others. Its only record makes Day of the Unicorn a 59-page illus. novel publ. in USA (--no help at all as The Smartest Man in Ireland appears only with that title and in one edition).
 * Library of Congress Catalog
 * LCCats labels Day of the Unicorn "A Knight of the Golden Plain story" ("More like this" does not help).
 * and labels Three-Day Enchantment another one
 * for ref, Knight of the GP


 * LCCat calls at least five books published in the U.S. "1st ed." (not "1st American ed."): Day, Gilly, 3-day, Knight, Haunted
 * LCCat says that Stranger (among others) is "by Mollie Hunter [i.e. M. M. H. M. McIlwraith]."
 * LCCat lists illustrators for several of our Novels:

Haunted, ill. Laszlo Kubinyi Walking, ill. Trina Schart Hyman Bodach, ill. Gareth FloydLondon 1970 Ferlie, ill. Joseph Cellini Thomas, ill. Charles Keeping (London, Blackie, 1967) Thomas, ill. Joseph Cellini (NY, Funk & Wagnalls, [1967]) Kelpie's, ill. Joseph Cellini (NY, Funk, [1966, c1964]) --notes in progress 2013-03-05 --P64 (talk) 22:47, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Collections?
WorldCat libraries provide two radically different for Hi Johnny by Mollie Hunter: The first records that I hit for The Brownie and The Enchanted Boy by Mollie Hunter satisfied me. Both (Galashiels : Byway Books, 1986); 32pp, illus. Mahri Christopherson.
 * — (Evan Bros, 1963); 160pp, illus. Drake Brookshaw
 * — (Galashiels : Byway Books, 1986); no page-count, illus. Mahri Christopherson

Perhaps the first record for Hi Johnny is correct, but that work is a collection of stories named for one of them (in effect, "Hi Johnny and other stories"). Then standard size picture-book editions of single stories were published in 1986.

For weak confirmation see one record for A Furl of Fairy Wind by Mollie Hunter: This gives subtitle "four stories" and a list of contents. One is the title story and the other three are those three named just above.
 * — (Harper & Row, 1977); 58pp, illus. Stephen Gammell

If 1963 Hi Johnny is a 160-page collection including "Hi Johnny", I suppose that it includes more than four stories, with the text primary --only because 160-pages of typical picture-book would surprise me.

The one full title "Mollie Hunter's Hi Johnny" suggests, among other things, that that story or all of the unknown number may be folktales retold by Hunter.

--P64 (talk) 00:09, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

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