Talk:Money in the Bank (2011)

Promotional Poster
It's my understanding that the promotional poster for Money In The Bank portrayed in the article is wrong. WWE.COM promotes the event with a poster featuring WWE Superstars Big Show and Hornswoggle. I tried to change the poster and my changed was reversed. To make clear of the situation here's the Money In The Bank page in the WWE site featuring the aforementioned poster http://www.wwe.com/shows/moneyinthebank. Hope you guys can fix it Kerbymanuel (talk) 21:21, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Both posters are official we have just chosen to use the one that's used here as its a poster and not a wallpaper.-- Steam Iron  23:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't get it, how can the Morrison Poster Be Official If WWE has never acknowledge it. Plus WWE never makes 2 posters for 1 PPV. I set you to WWE.COM 'cause since the site was "renovated" the promotional posters for the PPVS are posted as wallpapers which makes the one with Show official. Kerbymanuel (talk) 06:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The WWE makes many official promotional posters we don't just go by what WWE uses on there site-- Steam Iron  17:38, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Morrison
John Morrison link wrong check it --27.3.18.100 (talk) 03:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * -- Steam Iron  03:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

next week tapings
http://wrestleheat.com/wwe-raw-taping-results-62011-cm-punk-suspended-aftermath=8420 please add these matches --27.3.18.100 (talk) 07:41, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Wrestleheat is not a legitimate source. BarryTheUnicorn (talk)
 * General question, not specific: Who gets to tell whom what is a legitimate source and what is not?  --Starcade (talk) 04:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

CM Punk vs. Cena
It should be explained why the Punk-Cena match at MITB has been "pulled" from the card.

edit: CM Punk vs Cena should have been re-added into the card following this (or next week?)'s RAW, where if Punk win the title at MITB (and hence leave with the title belt), Cena would be fired. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.95.221.102 (talk) 09:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

The stipulation should be changed to say that if CM Punk actually does leave with the belt Cena will be fired. There's still the entirely possible chance of CM Punk winning the match and yet not leaving with the title (due to the Raw Money in the Bank match earlier in the night, or even if he ends up winning by DQ or something like that). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.39.175 (talk) 03:14, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

What if Punk loses, but steals the belt post-match and does a runner (worked or not)? It'd technically fulfill the criteria to get Cena fired, and I wouldn't be too suprised to see it. 90.196.193.251 (talk) 13:06, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Official Poster has been assigned
WWE has already assigned an official poster for the event on its website. So please, if I see that worthless excuse for a wrestler on the page, it'll be frustrating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.239.149 (talk) 21:33, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The poster on the page is official there is nothing that needs to be changed-- Steam Iron  21:38, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Are we sure that the CM Punk interview was kayfabe?
According to the CM Punk article, it was a shoot. But this page says it was kayfabe and yet both articles use the same source.

Which is correct?
 * It is what the wrestling industry calls it as a "Worked Shoot" meaning that the promo that appears to be a shoot is really a storyline that was approved before. In this storyline, CM Punk is quitting the WWE via not renewing his contract because he feels disrespected. He plans on leaving the WWE as their WWE Champion and force the company into retiring the title forever as revenge. The shoot he did on the June 27 edition of Raw was approved by Mr. McMahon and their current champion John Cena in advanced. So, in real life, he's not really suspended from the company.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 01:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

The reference is official so we should change the article or reference something that says it was a worked shoot.
 * I've replaced the link for Promo with the one referencing Worked shoots.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 02:04, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I meant the reference should be change from: http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-06-27/mcmahon-suspends-punk to something else as that is an official link and doesn't claim it being kayfabe at all.

Christian vs Randy Orton
Would someone add the events that happened on the July 1st episode of SmackDown involving the contract signing? I can't do it because I'm new and the article has been locked. KingdomOfSalvation (talk) 23:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a link? If you do I'll add it if the link is usable. --Gorlack36 (talk) 13:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

About the stipulations regarding the title matches
Firstly, I understand there has been a lot of editing of it, which is fine. But it seems to be focusing on the stipulations and I'd just like to ask why people feel it's better to leave out the full description (which I edited from here). The reference does state CM Punk has to leave Chicago with it and then Cena will be fired right away; I understand that this is WWE and obviously it won't be literally if CM Punk leaves, just in Kayfabe but I still think it's important to put in the full stipulations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorlack36 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Cena getting fired is a stipulation of losing the match, per Vince McMahon. Punk leaving Chicago with the belt is not a stipulation, but a decision by Punk (in the land of kayfabe). BarryTheUnicorn (talk)

Except that "If Punk manages to leave Chicago with the championship, Cena will be fired on the spot." was in the link I gave. I don't understand why it was reverted to something that was said without a reference. Gorlack36 (talk) 16:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's really semantics. The way it is rewritten says the same thing, but sounds more encyclopedia-appropriate. It wasn't like you did anything wrong; things just need to be reworded sometimes. BarryTheUnicorn (talk)
 * It's not the same as simply Punk winning the match with Cena, which is why I changed it to "if he has the belt at the end of the card". (FWIW, the next night's Raw is in Green Bay, WI, so that should clear that up!)  With Money in the Bank in play after the RAW match, the winner of that ladder match could challenge Punk, defeat him that night in Chicago, and prevent Cena from being fired.  (As of the moment, it appears that might be the likely scenario.)  --Starcade (talk) 10:00, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The chart has been changed to the discreet wording "leaves Chicago", as the McMahon promo put it. So I also put that in the main article, with the clarification as to what it probably means, to leave the above option open. --Starcade (talk) 04:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

The point still stands though, it should be worded correctly. And I think putting it as I had it would be better (mostly because it gives an actual description of what will ((at least in kayfabe)) will happen) but also, more importantly, the source that was given says it also; if you want to change it to how it is now, I feel we should get a source for that. Gorlack36 (talk) 18:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * So what if (in kayfabe-land) Punk stays in Chicago for three days afterwards (especially considering he lives there)? He's still the champion, yet he's not leaving Chicago -- does his physical presence in Chicago mean that Cena is not fired? Again, this is semantics (and ultimately not a big deal). Just leave it be. BarryTheUnicorn (talk)

You can't decide what is and what is not acceptable to use without sourcing it. You're claiming that Kayfabe should be twisted to put your own spin on what you feel the stipulations are; which is completely wrong (unless you can link to a source).Gorlack36 (talk) 13:57, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done arguing. Do what you will. BarryTheUnicorn (talk)

Okay, I edited it back in, thanks. If anyone else has a problem please talk about it here first, thank you.Gorlack36 (talk) 22:05, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Removed unreferenced content, 17-7-2011
I have just removed various unreferenced information with this edit; I'll leave the content right here.

Anyone is quite free to add it back, of course, but please use reliable sources

See the policy on verifiability.

Currently, six official matches have been announced for the card.

But on the July 4 episode of Raw, Cena asked Vince McMahon to reinstate Punk to allow his match with Punk to happen, threatening to quit otherwise. McMahon ultimately agreed, but added a stipulation that should Punk leave Chicago (technically, the end of the Money in the Bank PPV) as the WWE Champion, then Cena would be fired from WWE.

The Money in the Bank pay-per-view is also scheduled to hold its annual feature: two eight-man Money in the Bank ladder matches from both the Raw and SmackDown brands, in which the only way to win is to scale a ladder in the ring and unhook a suspended briefcase. The briefcase contains a contract, which allows the winner to compete for a WWE Championship (Raw) or a World Heavyweight Championship (SmackDown) title match at any time and any venue until next year's event. The eight competitors from the Raw brand are Alberto Del Rio, Rey Mysterio, Kofi Kingston, Jack Swagger, The Miz, Alex Riley, R-Truth and Evan Bourne. The SmackDown Money in the Bank ladder match competitors are Kane, Sheamus, Sin Cara, Daniel Bryan, Cody Rhodes, Wade Barrett, Justin Gabriel and Heath Slater.

The main feud heading into the event from the SmackDown brand is between Randy Orton and Christian over the former's World Heavyweight Championship. After his friend Edge's retirement and vacating of the World title in April, Christian won the championship for the first time in a Ladder match against Alberto Del Rio at Extreme Rules, only to lose it to Orton two days later at the May 3 SmackDown tapings (aired on May 6). Enacting his rematch clause, Christian challenged Orton for the title on two occasions on pay-per-view, namely Over the Limit and Capitol Punishment, but lost both the times, eventually turning heel. After Christian attacked Orton in following weeks, and threatened SmackDown general manager, Theodore Long with a lawyer (citing a controversial finish to his match at Capitol Punishment), on the July 8 edition of SmackDown, it was announced that Christian would receive another title match against Orton at Money in the Bank, with the stipulation that should Orton get himself disqualified or the referee makes an erroneous decision costing him the match, Christian would automatically win the World Heavyweight Championship.

Also, an inter-promotional match booked for the event pits The Big Show against Mark Henry. The feud started when, after being run-over (kayfabe) backstage by a car driven by Alberto Del Rio's personal ring announcer Ricardo Rodriguez on the May 23 edition of Raw, Big Show vented his frustration by attacking Henry on the June 17 episode of SmackDown. Henry retaliated by attacking Big Show at Capitol Punishment, thereby costing the latter his match against Del Rio. Then, on the June 27 special "Raw Roulette" episode, Henry again attacked Big Show, this time in his Steel Cage match against Del Rio; after Del Rio escaped the cage to win, Henry incapacitated Big Show by driving him through one of the cage's walls. On July 9, it was officially announced that Big Show would face Henry in a one-on-one match at Money in the Bank.

 Chzz  ► 00:15, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Further event description
Considering the huge consequences of the events of MITB, I think that further description (of at least the Punk/Cena/McMahon feud) should be provided. Thoughts? FPTI (talk) 03:00, 18 July 2011 (UTC) Usually what happens we have a description of the matches and an aftermath section (as with most, if not all PPVs for WWE). Give it till tomorrow night to see what happens on RAW. Gorlack36 (talk) 03:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

reception
why does this page not include the reception of the event? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.218.197 (talk) 11:28, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

GOCE copyedit
, thanks again for your copy-edit. Unfortunately, I undid a few of them or made some changes. You can compare them here'. Is there anything which you feel strongly about that I should not have undone? Then I can explain the rationale. Also, I hope I've clarified what the buys are. starship .paint   ~ regal  09:49, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

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