Talk:Mongolia/Archive 4

To add to article
Basic information to add to the article: what "Mongol Uls" means. 173.88.241.33 (talk) 01:32, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Mongolia for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Mongolia is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2019
Please add this image to "Religion" section. Thank you. Bloxgros (talk) 21:14, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2019
There are many references to Oirats, but there is one moment it is written with a D : Oirads 2A02:A212:9284:5080:78C2:D5FC:CBAE:8C86 (talk) 08:37, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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Request to change description of Mongolia to include it being a Central Asian country
Mongolia and the Mongolian people are culturally, historically, and geographically part of the Central Asian area, the lands in between the settled civilizations of China, Persia, Russia, and India. Mongolia is part of the Turko-Mongol nomadic legacy that shaped the original idea of a "Central Asia" land with nomadic roots and at the crossroads of cultures. The normal Wikipedia definition is political. It was largely shaped by the Soviet conception of «Средняя Азия», or Middle Asia, and evolved from there since the independence of the Soviet States. The UN basically went along with the Soviet definition, and it had stuck ever since.

Mongolia, meanwhile, being geographically close to East Asian states and tugged eastward by East Asia’s irresistible economic gravity, thus became East Asia in Political eyes. Even into the 1990s, Mongolian songs would sing “Mongolia is at the heart of Central Asia”. But the geopolitical situation have long changed since then.

So yes, this is the political definition. But as I understand, we are discussing more of the anthropological, cultural, and historical definitions here. So, in this case, Mongolic peoples are an absolute core of Central Asia.

UNESCO also still considers Central Asia to include Mongolia.

http://www.dmd-mongolie.com/en/is-mongolia-east-asian-or-central-asian-country/

-Jirgen66 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jirgen666 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 1 March 2020 (UTC) Meanwhile given alleged 3 million Mongols killed by Red Guards although they were not responsible for the torture to death of half the Mongols of Inner Mongolia during the Case of the Party of Inner Mongolia but the tea-drinking party outfits who discussed at their tea-drinking sessions how to improve their methods of torture, it is to be feared no true Mongols survived in China and then genocide has been also alleged of twentieth century Mongolia.

Parliamentary Republic after the 2019 constitutional amendment?
http://constitutionnet.org/news/mongolias-long-participatory-route-constitutional-reforms

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mongolia-politics/mongolia-amends-constitution-in-bid-to-end-political-instability-idUSKBN1XP1AL

I wonder if we can say that after the 2019 constitutional amendment, that Mongolia has now transitioned from a Semi-presidential republic to Parliamentary, given the President seems no longer available to veto bills, judicial appointment now in the hand of the parliament-appointed cabinet, and non re-electable (I know this last part is not that relevant).

Quote from the Reuters' report:

“We needed to fix this and if we give more power to the prime minister - we need also to have a strong minority to control or monitor the prime minister,” she (Nomingerel Khuyag, a lawyer and political activist with the opposition Democratic Party) added. “In the last 20 years, we couldn’t clearly say who was the head of the executive. With these amendments, it is now clear – the prime minister has been given more rights.”

I checked the CIA World Factbook, they still label Mongolia as a semi-presidential republic, but wikipedia already has many entry that is not in line with CIA World Factbook (CIA World Factbook label Algeria as presidential, here as semi-presidential).

Would be very interesting in making a resolution here. WeifengYang (talk) 03:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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{The globe that shows Mongolia's map but in this globe India's part shows into the china, this is against the Indian} Please correct the India's map — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhruv.vind (talk • contribs) 08:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
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Date format in this article should be DMY
I believe the date format use in Mongolia is YYYY-MMM-DD for cyrillic and Mongolian. But because this is English Wikipedia, IMO, it should be use DMY date format for instance (December 29, 1911 should be replaced with 29 December 1911). 36.65.47.156 (talk) 12:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Right, YYYY-MMM-DD is not a valid date format in article text per MOS:DATEFORMAT, but DMY format is apprioate. -Fnlayson (talk) 14:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The article has a template near the top. This will allow a bot to correct the date formating when it checks this article. -Fnlayson (talk) 14:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

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Suggestion for section on science and technology
Hi, just a suggestion, many country articles have sections for 'science and technology', this could be a section on this article as well.

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Mongolia is not East Asian country
Mongolia is considered as north- central Asian country. Aminafrommongolia56 (talk) 07:01, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of "Template:Largest cities of Mongolia"
Template:Largest cities of Mongolia has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 11:05, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

North Asia
Please change “East Asia” to north asia 66.181.182.111 (talk) 13:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Why? (CC) Tb hotch ™ 20:16, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Mongolia does not border Kazakhstan!!
They're pretty close they don't bordee 108.7.216.67 (talk) 06:16, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Which is the 2nd largest religion?
" Buddhism is the majority religion, with the nonreligious being the second-largest group. Islam is the second-largest religion, concentrated among ethnic Kazakhs. "

Which is it? nonreligious or Islam? We shouldn't have conflicting language here. Sideriver84 (talk) 02:54, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2022
In the "History" section, please capitalise "venus". Venus, Venus figurine, and Venus figurines of Mal'ta all consistently capitalise it. 175.39.61.121 (talk) 21:37, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Nythar T . C 04:30, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Russian/English
Ten years ago, I pointed out that Russian was no longer the most common foreign language. I didn't have a reliable source, so I didn't put it into the article. However, the outdated statement that Russian was the #1 remained adn remains in the article -- without a source given at all. This really needs to be fixed. Kdammers (talk) 18:17, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

"Russian is the most frequently spoken foreign language in Mongolia, followed by English, although English has been gradually replacing Russian as the second language." Kdammers (talk) 18:17, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Ask
Why mongolia chose semi presidential system as its governmemt at the time of revolution? Where is the origin of mongolia acquiring semi presidential system? What are the connection between mongolia añd france government system? 2404:8000:1027:85F6:8C19:7D14:3555:1670 (talk) 11:29, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2023
To update towards 2023 for economic figures.

211.217.193.170 (talk) 07:31, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * List of countries by GDP (PPP)
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 * List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita
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Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2023
Change Nur-Sultan to Astana

[Change suggested because the name of the city of Nur-Sultan was changed back to Astana in September 2022.] Rootveggies (talk) 05:40, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Done. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:21, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2024
change "first attested as the 'Mungu',[15] (Chinese: 蒙兀, Modern Chinese Měngwù, Middle Chinese Muwngu[16]), a branch of the Shiwei in an 8th-century Tang dynasty list of northern tribes, presumably related to the Liao-era Mungku[15] (Chinese: 蒙古, Modern Chinese Měnggǔ, Middle Chinese MuwngkuX[17])." to "also attested to the presidentially acclimated archeological findings theorizing that the name Mongol comes from the Mongolian Phrase "Olon Gol" meaning many rivers referring to the many sprawling rivers and streams around the ancient capital Karakorum or more possibly the main rivers of the Mongol Plateau Selenge, Onon, Tuul, Kherlen etc." Jonderbek (talk) 15:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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Petroglyphs in Mongolia
Petroglyphs in Mongolia and Gobi desert are an interesting topic related to art and prehistory, some of them registered by UNESCO. You could include some references, among them “Discovery of Prehistoric Ruins in Gobi Desert”, by Gonzalo de Salazar Serantes, Adoranten1998. Tanum: Scandinavian Society for Prehistoric Art, 1998, pp 66-69. Fred Harrington (talk) 10:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Petroglyphs and megaliths in Mongolia
I suggest a reference to petroglyphs and megaliths in Mongolia. Some of them, in Altai, have already been registered by UNESCO (https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1382/). More recently (1997), petroglyphs and megaliths have been discovered in Gobi desert (Bayan Ovoo): "Discovery of Prehistoric Ruins in Gobi Desert", by Gonzalo de Salazar Serantes, Adoranten 1998; Tanum: Scandinavian Society for Prehistoric Art, 1998, pp 66-69).    Fred Harrington (talk) 12:11, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Fix the guitar

103.140.10.211 (talk) 15:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC)