Talk:More of the Monkees

All Music Guide link
Since a link to the AMG review is already provided in the template box, I'm removing the review from the main text. Not sure if we have permission to reprint it anyway...

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"Rubber Soul" knockoff, or am I nuts?
Isn't this astonishingly similar to the cover of "Rubber Soul"? I'm not the cover-art cops, I just think its odd that this isn't discussed, given the general "Monkees and commercialism" thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.56.24 (talk) 10:23, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Lining the band members up for a shot and then using that as the album cover is hardly a new thing, and The Beatles weren't the first to do that, by far. --213.153.16.217 (talk) 14:05, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

It isn't a Rubber Soul knockoff. But when I first saw the cover of this album and Rubber Soul back in 2007, I immediately noted the similarities. -- C.Syde  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 09:11, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Needs certifications and full tracklisting information for Rhino 2 CD Deluxe Edition
Fantailfan (talk) 15:37, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Done Fantailfan (talk) 16:38, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Uncredited writers
Do you think we should add 'Angelo Badalamenti', 'Jeff Barry' and 'Marianne Faithfull' as co-writers to the song 'She'? Because when I ripped the songs on to my computer from my copy of More of the Monkees, the songwriting credit for the song She was - Angelo Badalamenti, Jeff Barry, Tommy Boyce, Marianne Faithfull and Bobby Hart.

Other sites have confirmed that they are indeed uncredited co-writers of the song, but only Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart received writers' credit. -- C.Syde  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 09:11, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Apologies if I format this wrong - I've never used the talk page before and I'm not entirely sure how it works, but this is with regards to the alleged uncredited songwriters on "She", the first track of the album, and I have provided several links as well to back this up. The above users have referenced Windows Media Player and some obscure websites to back this claim up that there were three additional songwriters that have never been credited, namely Angelo Badalamenti, Jeff Barry and Marianne Faithfull. However, the Catalog of Copyright Entires January-July 1966 and July-December 1967 state otherwise. The Catalog, which is an official source that does name uncredited writers for songs if they had involvement (e.g. The Four Preps' 1967 song "Hitchhiker" - the label, which I can't link for some reason but you can easily find an image of it online for verification, credits only one writer, while the Catalog lists two writers), only lists Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart in both entries, the first of which is the song's original entry. If Angelo Badalamenti, Jeff Barry and Marianne Faithfull aren't credited as cowriters in the Catalog, then they had no involvement with the song, plain and simple. On top of that, even if the Catalog wasn't available, Bobby Hart states in the liner notes of several Monkees releases that he wrote the song with Tommy Boyce in Griffith Park prior to The Monkees project (scroll about halfway down the page for the bit where he talks about the song) - he makes no reference to Jeff Barry, Angelo Badalamenti and Marianne Faithfull, and I'm pretty sure he would have talked about working with three outside writers if they had worked on the song together considering that he has talked about Red Baldwin's contribution to The Monkees' "Through the Looking Glass" in the liner notes of other releases, but he doesn't anywhere with this song - in fact, he specifically states that they wrote it themselves. I've also looked through several other interviews with Bobby Hart and he says nothing about working with these people together anywhere, and this in turn fits with the submissions in the Catalog. I've also checked the liner notes for various Monkees releases that include this song; they go into great depths about the songs' histories and who worked on them, and they also make no reference to these other three writers being involved anywhere as well - in fact they verify what I've just explained above. The only places I've found that do credit these other writers consist of a couple of Wiki sites and a couple of obscure websites that seem to just be repeating what it says on the Wiki articles - they are unreliable as they do get songwriting credits wrong on occasion, plus additional songwriters getting listed on songs when they're ripped from CDs, which is how all this confusion started, doesn't prove anything either as Windows Media Player isn't 100% reliable either when it comes to songwriting credits - I cannot tell you how many times the wrong songwriters have appeared for songs when I've ripped CDs. Wiki sites, obscure websites that quote said Wiki articles and Windows Media Player are not valid sources and shouldn't be taken for granted. On the other hand, official sources like the Catalog of Copyright Entries, liner notes written by people who have done actual research and statements made by one of the songwriters that together make no mention of working with outside songwriters are absolutely valid. I don't know about you, but based on all of that I'm 100% certain Boyce and Hart wrote the song themselves without anyone else. The statement on the main page about the other songwriters should either be removed completely as it is entirely incorrect or it should be amended to make it perfectly clear to people who read the article that it's incorrect, because at the moment the way it reads kind of comes across as if it's trying to be factual when it really isn't. 92.238.198.114 (talk) 01:30, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think the information should be removed entirely. I think the information should be amended. I mean it definitely warrants mentioning. ― C.Syde  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 07:47, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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Fixing bonus tracks
The wealth of information on the bonus material is weighing down the article. Fleshing out the history section or trimming down the extraneous information (specific session date times, noting who covered each song) would be appreciated. Hidlive (talk) 11:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)