Talk:Morrill Land-Grant Acts

Cleanup
perhaps this was put on clean-up to move the list somewhere else. anyone up for this? Sfahey 02:57, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If no response soon to clean-up request, I plan to remove this good article from the list. Sfahey 02:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Importance
I think it could use an explanation as to the importance of the Act, albeit I have little idea what it is other than an attempt to increase general education throughout the nation. &mdash;preceding unsigned comment by Seingo (talk • contribs) 09:58, November 26, 2005

Opposition
It appears from the existing article that there was some opposition to the act. Can anyone say more about why people opposed it? JustSayin 23:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Lands
Where were the actual lands that were transferred to state control? What happened to them? -- Beland (talk) 18:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Picture - Morrill Hall
Would it be appropriate ot add a photo of Morrill Hall at the University of Minnesota? Here are a couple of them: https://www1.umn.edu/twincities/maps/MorH/photo.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Morrill_Hall_University_of_Minnesota_1.jpg/620px-Morrill_Hall_University_of_Minnesota_1.jpg

There are probably buildings named after him at many of the land-grant colleges. Might be interesting to have a gallery of photos of them here. T-bonham (talk) 21:48, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Professor Kiyla Chase
This article was recently edited, deleting the name of Jonathan Baldwin Turner as the leader of the movement to establish agricultural colleges, substituting instead the name "Kiyla Chase". No reference is given for this name, and I could not find any information on someone of that name who lived in the 19th century, although there does appear to be a Kiyla Chase active in social media in this century. Perhaps the edit was the result of a mis-placed signature to another edit? In the absence of further information on the 19th century Kiyla Chase, I've changed it back to Jonathan Baldwin Turner. AnneTG (talk) 18:32, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It was probably just vandalism by an unregistered editor. ElKevbo (talk) 18:54, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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The Bent as a source
please explain why The Bent is not a valid source in this situation (or ever), as a source's reliability is generally not contingent on content. This isn't a primary source for the content and WP:BIASED even encourages non-neutral sources (if that is the issue you are concerned about), so it would be helpful for you to clarify the policy or guidelines that disqualify this source. Moreover, it would be helpful if you would explain why you deleted the whole paragraph; your initial edit summary said it was because the source was unreliable, but you deleted content that existed before the source was added. —Ost (talk) 16:06, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It has no obvious authority in this area. It's an engineering fraternity newspaper. You say it cites some further sources, I suggest you use those instead. Guy (help!) 16:35, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Point of order: That is a due weight objection, not a reliability objection. ElKevbo (talk) 16:37, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Tau Beta Pi is an Honor society (a scholastic organization that recognizes students who excel academically or as leaders among their peers), not an undergraduate fraternity (a social organization). TBP also accepts as new members "Engineers of high attainment in the profession, regardless of college attended, scholastic record, or educational background," with 10+ years in the engineering field. The Bent, which was started in 1905, has a current paid circulation of 80,000+.  The Daniel E. Williams article Morrill Act's Contribution to Engineering's Foundation, Spring 2009 is one of The Bent's feature articles, with author Daniel E. Williams having two on the list. His other article is Explaining Human Knowledge, Winter 2011 Williams has degrees from three universities (University of Illinois, Florida Institute of Technology & Purdue University), two of which are land-grant universities. TBP/Bent doesn't need any authority in the area of the Morrill Act. It published an article on the subject of the history of engineering in the USA. The fact that the article touches on the Morrill Act is exactly why it is relevant to the Morrill Land-Grant Acts article. , if your basic argument is that TBP/Bent is no authority on the subject of land grants and therefore isn't a reliable source, then every newspaper is not a reliable source on any subject except the subject of newspapers. And we all know that newspaper articles seem to be the preferred RS in Wikipedia for all topics. Suggesting that a citation to this article be bumped in favor of writings on Williams' bibliography is akin to suggesting that we favor primary & secondary sources over secondary & tertiary ones, which also goes against the usual Wikipedia mantra that 2nd/3rd is better. Are we here to decide if the editors at The Bent know their job to side-check everything before publishing? ...more so than any newspaper editor would side-check their authors? Crikey, at least The Bent article (and its related content & context in the Morrill article) is on the subject of engineering! — Normal Op (talk) 03:19, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

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