Talk:Morris Motors

Frank G Woollard
Should this page include a reference to the page for Frank George Woollard? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ged Byrne (talk • contribs) 22:11, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Jenks24 (talk) 12:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Morris Motor Company → Morris Motors – There is no reason for having used this fictitious name for this firm except perhaps that the first editor who created the article made a few vague notes and knew no better?

Main source for the following notes: R. J. Overy, ‘Morris, William Richard, Viscount Nuffield (1877–1963)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004

William Richard Morris's businesses:


 * on his own account


 * 1. repairing bicycles (1893)
 * 2. assembling bicycles
 * 3. cycle maker (1901)
 * 4. manufacturer of motorcycles (1902)


 * in partnership


 * 5. works manager (and partner in) Oxford Automobile and Cycle Agency (1903)
 * after financial collapse of partner continued on own account


 * 6. Morris Garage (1909) sale hire and repair of cars later Morris Garages Limited (eventually spawned MG a limited liability company from July 1927 and The MG Car Company from 1928) remaining Morris's personal property until 1935 when ownership was transferred to Morris Motors Limited


 * 7. manufacture of cars (1912) W.R.M. Motors Limited renamed;
 * Morris Motors Limited (1919)
 * Morris Motors (1926) Limited was formed to take in public investment by way of preference capital and to purchase the existing business from Morris Motors Limited which was then dissolved.  In 1929 this new company was permitted to return to the name Morris Motors Limited.

Thereafter though the shareholders changed the same company functioned under this name until the creation of British Leyland Limited in 1968. I can find no reference to a Morris Motor Company and certainly none claiming to own the business of Morris Motors Limited. Eddaido (talk) 09:48, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. There is here no good reason that I can find why the name of the entry should differ arbitrarily from the name of the company with which it purports to deal. The entry name should be changed (as in corrected). Regards Charles01 (talk) 11:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Agreed Name should be corrected. NealeFamily (talk) 20:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Ideally, we'd have some WP:RS's to establish a name per WP:COMMONNAME, but at the least the proposal seems to correct an inaccuracy. ENeville (talk) 02:51, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - seems reasonable, though just yesterday a BBC item referred to "Morris Motor Company". Might be relying on wikipedia for research but can't tell. GraemeLeggett (talk) 12:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Addendum, having looked at the page history it seems the article has been at this name since creation in 2005, possibly an early error (omitting the "s" and uppercase instead of lower case for "company") that was overlooked. Either way, can't find anything to disprove Morris Motors as a reasonable article title. GraemeLeggett (talk) 12:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Without having checked I think there are a lot of British car manufacturer articles with the same problem. I guess it happened back at the beginning when they had articles but no enthusiasm for research into the correct names and elected the format "xxxbrandxxx Motor Company" to dodge any waste of time over a minor issue - I repeat, its my Guess and may well be quite wrong.


 * And yes I think there is every reason to assume the BBC took their incorrect information from this very source which makes it all a little more important to get them sorted out. Eddaido (talk) 22:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support -- If there were a need to draw a distinction between the comapny and its products, the target would be Morris Motors (company), but since the carws are listed, that seems a pointless complication. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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British National Health Service or before socialised medicine there was (Morris) Nuffield
William Morris made a vast fortune from his Morris cars which business all belonged to him. With an immense tax-paid annual income he would try to spend it by doing things like buying Wolseley and putting it in his back pocket. (there's a list somewhere) He gave truly enormous amounts for treatment of the illnesses of the poor, whole hospitals at a time. The sculpture is outside just one of them.

Use search Nuffield on Wikipedia's National Health article.

I used that image to complete a grid where each image related directly to the one next to it. Vertically as well as horizontally. Otherwise, as it is now, we lose a certain amount of the logic of the thing and in any case the manufacture of those products led directly to the payment for the hospitals which is I suppose the relevance. I've put it back for the moment but you are welcome to remove it if in light of my explanation you still feel it is not relevant.

If you do would you please find a more relevant image that can go in its place? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 04:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Mine-sinkers
This article, and the article on William Morris, mention that his company made mine-sinkers during the First World War. Lots of articles on the internet reinforce this, but what was a mine-sinker? I can't for the life of me find a description of what they were, or what they did. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 17:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Here's a nice photo: Imperial War Museums. Eddaido (talk) 22:47, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Plant location
Wikipedia states “Morris's manufacturing complex at Cowley, Oxford is now BMW Group's Plant Oxford, factory of the MINI marque since its launch in 2001” This is incorrect, the Morris manufacturing complex at Cowley, was demolished and developed as a Business Park by British Aerospace’s property arm. The site on which the BMW Mini is manufactured (BMW Group Plant Oxford) was formerly Pressed Steel Fisher Ltd and later under the Rover Group banner simply the Body Plant (Morris's site the Assembly Plant) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.245.3 (talk) 00:41, 24 November 2023 (UTC)