Talk:Mort Sahl

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Discography
Shouldn't there be a list of albums he released? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MillbrookSpartan (talk • contribs) 06:28, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

JFK Speeches
From NY Times: Corrections, May 17 and June 17, 2008 An article in print editions on May 16 about the comedian Mort Sahl was accompanied by an incorrect picture in some copies. The photograph was of the comedian Shelley Berman, not Mr. Sahl. Also, this article in City Room originally referred imprecisely to Mr. Sahl’s career as a writer. He contributed jokes used in some of John F. Kennedy’s speeches, but did not write the speeches themselves. He wrote screenplays as well, but few if any were produced, so he is not the author of “many successful” screenplays. The latter correction was delayed by research. [] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.4.157 (talk) 19:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Article Use on answers.com
This article appears on answers.com. In it, it states "He was drafted into the US Air Force and served at an Air Force Base in Alaska." There is no mention of drafting in the original article. They are quoting Wikipedia as their article source, so where does the draft come from? Further, did USAF actually draft anybody? CampKohler (talk) 06:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hosted the first Grammy Awards?
According to CBS.com, Mort Sahl hosted the first Grammy Awards ceremony. If anyone can confirm this, it should be added to the article. Kaldari (talk) 16:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

moved till referenced
He is credited with pioneering a style of stand-up comedy that paved the way for Lenny Bruce, Nichols and May, and Dick Gregory.

"...he was the first comic to make a live recording, the first to do college concerts and, in 1960, the first to grace the cover of Time magazine."
Balderdash! Will Rogers appeared on the July 19, 1926 cover of TIME, he certainly made live (as opposed to dead?) recordings, and I would not be surprised if he, at one time or another, performed on a college campus.76.199.0.92 (talk) 05:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Will Rogers was a humorist, not a comic. -- 72.205.126.89 (talk) 03:21, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Some bits and pieces
I removed these odds and ends from the end of the "Recognition" section. These remarks appear to be better suited to the talk page, so I am putting them here. Invertzoo (talk) 22:25, 19 November 2011 (UTC) From www.mortsahl.com Sahl says most of today's comedians are lazy, sticking to safe, inane observations while the world around them grows ever more bleak. They're not doing their jobs.

I must agree. And hope that someone will soon emerge to fill the void left by the late Bill Hicks in 1994. Man, if only he hadn't died. ..

"He was a good one," says Sahl. "Did you get to see him?"

"Not live, no. I didn't know about him until about a week after he died."

Miraculous birth?
"He was born on May 11, 1927 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada to Harry Sahl." Really? What was his mother doing at the time? Shouldn't she at least be named?76.199.2.56 (talk) 06:04, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

"He was the first comedian to record a live album..."
The claim that he was the first comedian to appear on the cover of TIME has been dropped, but the 'live album' claim, equally bogus, remains. Redd Foxx's earliest live performance recordings predate Sahl's by several years, and I'm not even sure that Redd's were the first.76.195.223.120 (talk) 08:20, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

firsts?
Time cover at for Will Rogers. Recordings of his live radio shows were made, and he made "videos" (film shorts) as well. I trust he qualifies as a "comedian" as well. Collect (talk) 18:19, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Not by profession. His humor was part of his occupations as a newspaper columnist, radio entertainer, lecturer, actor, cowboy, sage, writer, philosopher and ambassador. --Light show (talk) 18:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Will Rogers was a humorist, not a comedian. (That you put it in scare quotes suggests that you understand your error.) -- 72.205.126.89 (talk) 03:22, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Article expansion
I've expanded most of the article and interested editors can make any suggestions or improvements in this sandboxed version before they're added to the actual article. --Light show (talk) 01:18, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Ideas about women?
I'm guessing this won't get passed the Wikipedia living persons thing, but evidence exists for, in the least, derogatory statements about women:

"There aren't any intellectual women"

"Those chicks from the women's liberation movement don't represent any girls I go out with"

"That whole women's liberation thing, is really incredible"

"I don't want a girl who will discuss Camus in front of the fireplace.... I don't want that (intellectualism) from them."

"A women's place is in the stove."

I'm assuming this will just be chalked up to "it was the way it was back then." Joel S Bateman (talk) 22:25, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Discography and filmography
Should we remove these two sections? I'm having difficulty finding sources for them and they're the only section of the article that's unreferenced Scaramouche33 (talk) 17:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I would say definitely keep the filmography, as those link to pages with sources that confirm him in those films. As for the discography, I'll look for sources. SweetTaylorJames (talk) 17:47, 29 October 2021 (UTC)