Talk:Mortal Kombat 3

Bios
Please, delete all that. It is not necessary for the article, and it is redundant as every character has an article. -- ReyBrujo 22:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * What the... this is getting ridiculous. All of the Bios and Endings for any title should be moved into Discussion or removed completely, they're too intrusive in articles. Goroliath

I'm thinking about removing the entire biography section. All that information is available in specific character articles, where it makes more sense then an article dedicated to the whole game. What do you think ? I don't want to go ahead and do it if theres opposition to the idea... best we talk it out before that? 207.172.52.41 Carmen


 * Done. Virogtheconq 23:52, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Message from Wikipedia:FR
Hello All ! (it's just a little message from another wikipedia project, so you can delete it fastly ;) )

Great page ! I'm french, MK fanboy and I write all the MK games on Wikipédia:FR by traduction of yours pages, and some external sources.

About Bio of characters, I think too it's inutile (redundant), even if it's sometimes a little different from one game to another. So I haven't integrating into french MK pages ; but here, you do what you want ^^

See you next time

Cylence

Game versions
How about a section on the differences between each successive release of MK3 (version 1.2, 2.0, etc)? --- SHODAN 03:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Article setup
First of all, I agree with everyone else, the character biographies are FAR too redundent as each of these guys and gals have thier own page. Furthermore, will someone please INCLUDE SOMETHING ABOUT THE DAMN GAME ITSELF. Its VERY disturbing that theres tons of information on the storyline, without so much as MENTIONING the gameplay, art style, etc... all of which are MUCH different from Mortal Kombat and MK II, therefore deserving mention. 207.172.52.41 Carmen


 * Well, be bold and say it yourself. EVula 14:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd love to man, but I honestly haven't played the game very much. Therefore I don't think I'm qualified to talk about the game system... but I'm sure there are people that are.  Seriously though, 90% of the article seems to be dedicated to (repeat) character information, which is already available on other individual entries.  Surely that is a bit weird?

I will add in about the art style though, since it is the part of the game I remember well.

207.172.52.41 Carmen

Well the bulleted mess that is this and a few other MK articles is partially my fault. It really does do an article so much more justice if paragraphs are used instead. I think the "New To The Series" section would benefit if we took all the info from it and made it into several paragraphs and re-labeled it "Gameplay" or whatever other sections we could make out of the already existing info within it. Buzda 23:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I didn't fix the bullets, but I did restructure the article. Based on the structure of the MK2 article.--Iamstillhiro1112 00:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Did Liu Kang REALLY win MKII?
Nowhere can I find info that he was the winner. Buzda 03:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Then you're either stupid or you need to look harder. Yes he did win MKII, you idiot. Mkrox (talk) 06:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Whoops! Forgot to sign it! And I'm not meaning to be rude. Mkrox (talk) 06:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind of in-game information about the winner of MKII, but in Deadly Alliance is said that Liu Kang had won four tournaments. It means that he must have won in all the main four first games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kombatgod (talk • contribs) 18:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Criticisms
While this section is considerably weak at the moment, I think it has alot of potential. Buzda 05:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

That criticism written sounds a bit too opinionated Tragickingdom 05:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Space Game
There was a Galaga-like space shooter unlockable with a secret code. Did it have a name? Was it only on the snes version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.40.210 (talk • contribs)


 * The message that appears when you start the minigame is "You Are Entering The Land of Rellim ", so "Land of Rellim" is basically the only name we know it by. "Rellim" might be a word something scambled, but I don't recall offhand. This appeared in every version of the game, as far as I know. MarphyBlack 01:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It's called "Rellim Ohcanep" in some versions. Doing a little research, I found that Kent Miller and Mark Penacho are listed in MK3's credits. RobWill80 03:13, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Trivia (removed from the article)

 * When the player picks the Master difficulty level, it is possible to fight Shang Tsung twice.
 * In the arcade version, Kung Lao lacked a character bio during attract mode. Midway created one for the home versions of MK3.
 * Noob Saibot is not a fully black 'ninja' palette swap, but is actually a completely black version of Kano, because there were no 'ninjas' in this game until Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. He also has no special moves but uses some of Kano's combos. It should be noted that when Noob wins a round, the announcer says, "Kano shows mercy!" This is most likely a programming glitch. In the Super NES version, upon defeat, the announcer says " Its Official You Suck".
 * The reason Johnny Cage wasn't featured in MK3 was because the actor who portrayed him (Daniel Pesina) was fired in 1994 after dressing as Cage in an ad promoting the short lived fighting game BloodStorm.
 * The Graveyard stage contains gravestones with the last names of MK3's entire design team: Ed Boon, John Tobias, Dan Forden, John Vogel, Steve Beran, Tony Goskie, and Dave Michicich. For each round, four of these names will appear randomly on each of the four closest gravestones. Each gravestone also has each person's date of birth as well as the "alleged" date they died, which is April 1, 1995, the day the first version of MK3 was released in the arcades. A gravestone in the background can also be seen reading "Cage", making reference to Johnny Cage being deceased (at the time).
 * The Subway stage has a sign in the background that reads: "BOON/TOBIAS". These are the last names of Mortal Kombat co-creators, Ed Boon and John Tobias, and when BOON/TOBIAS is spelled inversely it reads, NOOB SAIBOT.
 * Many of the new characters weren't officially named till late in the production of the game. During production, Sektor and Cyrax's names were Ketchup and Mustard (respectively), due to their coloration, while Sindel bore the name "The Bride" as well as the odd moniker of "Muchacha." Kabal, meanwhile, was nicknamed "Sandman".
 * The early names for the Graveyard and the Bell Tower stages were "The Boonyard" and "Tobias Tower," respectively, but criticism regarding the oversaturation of Boon's and Tobias' names in the game soon surfaced, resulting in both levels being quickly renamed with their generic descriptions.
 * This was the first Mortal Kombat game to feature Sub-Zero unmasked. He was unmasked to not only give him a new look, but to also convince the fans that this was in fact the younger brother of the original Sub-Zero (who died in the first Mortal Kombat).
 * Smoke was unlocked via Ultimate Kombat Kode upon beating Shao Kahn, but he did not stay in the CPU's memory for the Arcade version.
 * There are many similar voices for the characters in this game, but this varies in the different versions. Listed below are the various platforms, and the characters which share voices.
 * Arcade: Shang Tsung, Jax, and Kano | Stryker and Kabal | Sub-Zero and Kung Lao | Sonya and Sindel | Cyrax, Sektor, and Smoke | Liu Kang, Nightwolf, and Sheeva all have their own unique voice.
 * Super NES: Shang Tsung, Jax, Kano, Stryker, Sub-Zero, Kung Lao, and Kabal | Sonya, Sindel, and Sheeva | Cyrax, Sektor, and Smoke | Liu Kang and Nightwolf each have their own unique voices.
 * Sega Genesis: Shang Tsung, Jax, Kano, Liu Kang, Stryker, Sub-Zero, Nightwolf, Kung Lao, and Kabal | Sonya and Sindel | Cyrax, Sektor, and Smoke | Sheeva has her own unique voice.
 * The Midway Arcade Treasures 2 version includes special clips that talk about the development for MK3. Some people in the clips said that the most noticeable features are the run button and Kombat Kodes. --David Pro 17:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

PC Hidden Audio track
The DOS version of MK3 has a hidden audio track on the CD, track 47. It is a simple beat with someone telling some story in reverse. It's very strange and don't think it can be found in the game. I could post a link, but its probably not legal here on wikipedia. What's the deal with that? -- blm07 20:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * After I understood the first few words I googled them and it turns out the story is 'Tis the Voice of the Lobster JosiahMKP (talk) 04:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I was searching for this, and found the track has been added to Wikimedia Commons TRACK47 --Gregwesson (talk) 21:33, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Game Gear
The information about the Game Gear version is false, as, in 1995, I purchased the Game Gear version at a Warehouse music store in Las Vegas, NV, on the day of release. The box looks almost like the Genesis version, except is cardboard and has a different back, since it is the Game Gear version. The cartridge also looks like the typical Game Gear cartridge for America, with the purple system logo on the left, and the MK3 symbol and logo on the body of the label. Later, in 1998 and 1999, when retail stores were dumping old Sega and SNES products in favor of making room for Dreamcast, the Game Gear and Genesis versions of the game were sold for under $10 USD at places like Kay Bee, Toys R Us (especially there), Wards, Electronics Boutique, FuncoLand (now owned by Barnes & Noble and calling themselves GameStop), Software Etc., Blockbuster Video, Hollywood Video, and the like etc.

I don't know why people start rumors like this, either. The game had widespread release. In fact, I also recall the Game Gear demo unit at the Target on W. Spring Mtn. Rd. & S. Rainbow Blvd. having the game inside for play, and also had a crowd of kids playing the game around that demo unit.

Coffee5binky (talk) 14:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Pesina Was NOT Fired
Daniel Pesina and John Tobias did an interview on Polygon. They both confirm that Daniel was not fired. John also states he wasn't even employed by Midway. Daniel's affiliation with Midway came to an end after he unsuccessfully sued the company for royalties. The Bloodstorm ad came after both parties went their separate ways. With this piece of information, I'm removing the part about him being terminated since it's not true.

http://www.polygon.com/2012/10/2/3444618/mortal-kombats-johnny-cage-20-years-later

Rainbowrabbit (talk) 05:58, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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No Tournament?
The article claims the game "avoids the tournament storyline" yet the game manual describes the game as a tournament and multiple character bios and endings mention the characters competing and winning a third tournament. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.197.233.120 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Where is it written that it is a tournament? I don't see it in bios, endings or manual. It's an invasion on Earth. Jirka.h23 (talk) 01:24, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Release dates are wrong
As at 2021, there are incorrect release dates.

The game wasn't available in the arcades in April 15, 1994. It was released in April 1995. I have magazines from 1995 (EGM issue #69 and SuperGamePower issue #13) in my hands describing the arcade game.

Also, the home console ports release dates are all wrong. Mortal Kombat 2 was released for the consoles in late 1994. Why would they bothered porting an yesterday game with the 3rd installment already in arcades (which wasn't)? Sega Genesis and SNES ports were released in October 13, 1995. When you boot the games, the copyright is right there: "1995 Midway Manufacturing Co., All rights reserved".

IMDB got it right: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0202480/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_dt_dt