Talk:Morton Feldman

Edgard Varese Professor
''Feldman became the Edgard Varese Professor at the University at Buffalo. Prior to that time, Feldman had earned his living as a full time employee at the family textile business in New York's garment district.''

Would someone care to explain this title? I know what a professor is, and who Edgard Varese was, but what on earth is an Edgard Varese Professor? Giamberardino 00:56, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * This is probably an endowed chair. Someone gives a heap of cash to the school, and the interest from the investment of said cash (usually along with some of the school's own money) is used to establish a professorship, or at least give a nice raise to a professor. The donor then gets to name the professorship after himself (The Hubert R. Moneybags Chair in Sociology), or his no-good kid, or Pepsi-Cola, or whoever else he likes (such as Varese). 64.4.98.244 23:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Arguing with his teachers
''Feldman studied ... composition with Wallingford Riegger and Stefan Wolpe. He did not agree with many of the views of these composition teachers, and he spent much of his time simply arguing with them.''

From the book "Soundpieces: Interviews With American Composers" (by Cole Gagne and Tracy Caras; Metuchen, N.J. & London: Scarecrow Press, 1982) :

''Q: All we've been able to read about your studies with Stefan Wolpe was that the two of you argued all the time.

FELDMAN: I'm very sorry about that: Stefan was hurt when he read that. We talked a lot - that's about all I really meant.''

24.209.106.228 (talk) 16:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Partial list?
The partial list of works is getting longer, and none of the titles are formatted correctly. In addition, we have an unreferenced list of "notable" works. What makes them notable, and who said so? Can someone who knows Feldman's works straighten this out? There really is no need for two lists, and we need references. --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  15:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

revert war
This is getting old. Is there someone who knows more about Wikipedia than I do and knows how to do something about it? I'm being careful to follow WP:3RR, but the anonymous user could be blocked by according to that rule, yes? SethTisue (talk) 18:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The user was blocked by an admin. Eventually, the block expired and now they are back and making the same edit again. I requested a new block at ; a new block is now in effect. SethTisue (talk) 05:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I removed this gentlemen's name from the section header as it was coming up in search engines (Yahoo specifically) under his name, and he phoned the Wikimedia office to complain. I did explain to him that we (the Wikimedia Foundation) have nothing to do with content. The name is available in the page history, but should not be spidered any longer. Cary Bass (talk) 20:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful article, but needs citations
This is perhaps the best article I've ever read on Wikipedia. It's clean, well-written, concise, and each paragraph is contained within itself, starting with a relevant and clear topic sentence and containing only facts that add to/clarify/further the topic and the article in general; the list of works is clean and organized. I've read a lot about Mr. Feldman, and I'm pretty sure the entire article is factually correct, and it contains no opinions. However, because this is Wikipedia, each fact needs to be cited, especially quotes and statements about musical style. There's a list of reading from which I assume the author(s) got his information, so perhaps the same person(s) could put page citations?

-Feldman fan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.65.36.225 (talk) 00:36, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Under Cage's influence?
Under Cage's influence, Feldman began to write pieces which had no relation to compositional systems of the pastItalic text

I think this is a little misleading, implying some kind of hierarchy between the two that i dont believe existed.

I haven't read or heard either man say that Feldman was under Cages influence other than that Cage encouraged Feldman to carry on with what he was already doing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.118.5 (talk) 11:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I have changed the sentence. SethTisue (talk) 14:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Picture?
Morty deserves a picture! Anyone know of any that can be used? I guess he's too recent for the pictures' copyrights to have expired, but not recent enough for anyone to have taken a picture of him... Experimental Hobo Infiltration Droid (talk) 04:43, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I wasn't able to find a free image of Cage for his article... and Feldman is a more difficult case, I imagine. --Jashiin (talk) 10:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Try this place! | http://ubdigit.buffalo.edu/collections/lib/lib-mus/lib-mus016_Feldman.php ;-j --83.248.239.86 (talk) 19:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Found one on wikimedia. Ribbonabaca (talk) 20:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

First complete performance of second quartet
I think the sentence attributing this to the Flux Quartet in 1999 ahould be deleted: See short note on this at www.cnvill.net/mfsq2perfs.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cnvill (talk • contribs) 11:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Cnvill, 28 June 2010
PLEASE REMOVE THIS SENTENCE: "String Quartet II" was given its first complete performance at Cooper Union, New York City in 1999 by the FLUX Quartet, who issued a recording in 2003 (at 6 hours and 7 minutes, and spanning 5 CDs, or uninterrupted on 1 DVD) via New York's Mode Records. REASON: Th Flux Quartet did not give the first complete performance, see www.cnvill.net/mfsq2perfs.htm. Also, there is more than one recording so it is inappropriate to highlight the Mode recording.

Cnvill (talk) 12:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Thank you! I wish I had more sources to make this into a respectable article, but unfortunately I have almost none. --Jashiin (talk) 14:33, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Citation
Added citation link to liner note essay, and for full disclosure I work for the non-profit educational resource linked to. Ribbonabaca (talk) 18:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 July 2012
The article says "he met painters Richard Lippold (who had a studio next door), Sonia Sekula." Richard Lippold was a sculptor not a painter (and is accurately described as a sculptor in the Wikipedia article on Richard Lippold). The text should be revised to read:

he met sculptor Richard Lippold (who had a studio next door), and artists Sonia Sekula,

69.86.130.18 (talk) 02:20, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done Topher385 (talk) 03:27, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Neither text
Changed Beckett 'text' to 'original libretto' as Beckett wrote the Neither text for Feldman to use for his opera

Indeterminate deprotection request
Five years have passed... 86.162.136.32 (talk) 07:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)


 * And now six... NeoAdamite (talk) 19:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, actually it's only just over four years since the article was protected (in November 2010) because an editor using various IP addresses in Portland Oregon was repeatedly and persistently adding a non-notable name to the article. Maybe it's time for the protection to be removed though to see if the problem editor has gone away. --Deskford (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Eight years have passed...No Swan So Fine (talk) 16:33, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This article has barely changed over the years. I think the edit lock is doing more harm than good. Also... +10 years now

The Bunita Marcus allegations
These really should be in this article - it's one person's word but they deserve at least a mention and reference. Any thoughts on how this should be presented? 81.178.169.74 (talk) 23:34, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2015
Category:Jewish classical composers

Shtetl80 (talk) 12:00, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: He's already listed in Category:Jewish American classical composers, which is a subcategory of Category:Jewish classical composers. We don't place article in a general category when a more specific one is available. Nici  Vampire  Heart  13:59, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2016
Just wanted to point out that the first link in the Listening links at the end of the article is broken

Art of the States: Morton Feldman three works by the composer -- leads to nothing

Cichlisuite (talk) 13:03, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done: Added dead link tag. Thank you. --allthefoxes (Talk) 15:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2017
Hello! I would like to suggest adding the links below to information about art films with music by Feldman to the "External Links" section of the page:

Art films with music by Feldman: "Jackson Pollock" (Hans Namuth & Paul Falkenberg, 1951) http://www.cnvill.net/mffilmmusic.htm

"Sculpture by Lipton" (Nathan Boxer, 1954) http://www.cnvill.net/mffilmmusic.htm

"De Kooning" (Hans Namuth & Paul Falkenberg, 1964) http://www.cnvill.net/mffilmmusic.htm

"Feldman Sings" (Zahra Partovi & Chris Villars, 2017) http://www.cnvill.net/mfsings.htm

"Softly - A GIANT STEP" (Zahra Partovi, 2017) http://www.cnvill.net/mfsoftly.htm

Thank you! Cnvill (talk) 15:27, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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