Talk:Mosaic Generation

I have a hard time seeing how this article meets the standards at Avoid neologisms. Care to explain why we should keep it under this guideline? GRBerry 21:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I should first say say I'm totally not affiliated with Barna, the person who coined the term, and I'm not out to try to promote it.  I don't think it's a particularly good term, I don't especially believe his conclusions about the generation in question, and I don't think it's particularly widespread outside of a certain subculture.  I just stumbled across it in an Amazon.com user review of a book, and when wikipedia didn't have an explaination, it took me a little bit of reading to understand the concept, so I thought I'd add a paragraph or two on it for the next person in my situation.


 * In regards to the specifics of that guideline: a) its usage, however limited, is definitely verifiable and not my original research--  the cited links are newpapers (or something similar) that talk about the term and what it means.   And I just added a paper from some university that discusses the term.


 * I think it might be useful to keep an article around on the term, mostly because I wanted there to be one on the term earlier today. But, if you disagree-- I'm not too attached to the article :).   If you do do a delete, though, you might transfer the text to George Barna and set up a redirect so people can find it.
 * --Alecmconroy 00:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I have the George Barna article on my watchlist, which is how I saw this at all ;). That new paper shows it is used by more than just him.  But I'd guess it is a protologism.  I am, however, an eventualist, so I'm not going to act any time soon.  GRBerry 00:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

probable neologism without notable use
Well, its 3 years since the last comments here, and i dont see much sign of this term existing beyond the evangelical christian community. it doesnt seem very prevalent there either, which is more important i suppose. i will propose for deletion, and maybe someone can find a good source to show notability. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Do Not Delete this page. This page is used by a few, if not many. I suspect you are not a Christian and you are just attacking a Christian source of information. This page has just as much right to stay as any other. - J. Lewis (Aug. 20th, 2009)


 * How dare you presume to know my religion or my motives? On WP, we try to assume good faith. if you noticed, i indicated that i could not find significant use WITHIN the evangelical community. I did not say i would delete this article. i cannot do so, not being an admin. This page has no "right" to stay, nor does any other page have a "right". only humans have rights as i understand them. This pages use by a few is irrelevant. if its well sourced, it doesnt ever have to be "used" by anyone to belong on wp. I am not attacking a christian source of information. i am questioning the notability of the phrase this article is about. if you feel this phrase is notable, show it. provide web or print references that its used by others, and show some independent, third party acknowledgement of this term. if its a notable concept within any christian community, surely someone will have written about it somewhere, even possibly a secularly focused journalist (notice i didnt say secular journalist. a person would not have to be nonreligious to write about religion from a secular point of view. in fact, trying to see ones own religion from outside it can be very helpful in understanding how ones religion could be more effective in promoting its values and beliefs to others). proposals for deletion can be useful, as they can help the article to become better sourced. And if, by chance, you are in fact an evangelical christian, youve done a really lousy job in helping this person to see the value of your particular take on christianity. Please try to show some compassion for my position. I will reiterate: i am NOT trying to attack this article or any religion. my purpose here is to help build a better encyclopedia. sincerely, Mercurywoodrose (talk) 08:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)