Talk:Motu proprio

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Is it moto or motu? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.125.94.59 (talk • contribs)


 * It is motu. See . -- Cat Whisperer 19:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Motus is a fourth declension noun, so its ablative ends in "u". It is derived from the fourth principal part of the verb moveo, movere, movi, motus.  Sometimes the fourth principle part (which is first/second declension) can be converted to a fourth-declension noun to represent an abstract action.  Thus the verb moveo means "I am setting something in motion", while motus as a fourth-declension noun refers to motion in the abstract. &mdash; Lawrence King ( talk ) 02:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

very similar to the article of the Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10602a.htm

seems to be a copyright violation...

Torzsmokus 20:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * That edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia is in the public domain, so there is no copyright violation. There are actually many more articles that are virtually identical to the Catholic Encyclopedia article (e.g., Corpus Juris Canonici or Validation of Marriage), which is a problem because that edition is almost 100 years out of date. -- Cat Whisperer 20:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I arrived here by happenstance. I saw the comments in the above section ("very similar to the article of the Catholic Encyclopedia") from over 13 years ago. Consensus has not changed in over 10 years concerning plagiarism and plagiarism problems. While there may be no copyright violations an article that is virtually identical to content in a source needs to be rewritten. It is not "alright" to assume that because something has flown under the radar it is acceptable.

Sua sponte v. Motu proprio

 * On another note I see that this article is advancing strictly Canon law in the lead and infobox although it has a section on civil law. The article Sua sponte is mentioned in the opening paragraph but suo moto (suo motu), and Motu proprio are very related terms.


 * In civil law Motu proprio might be more appropriate, and possibly not used largely in the United States (I haven't looked yet), but it is used in Louisiana Law such as State of Louisiana v. Louis Dan Smith (No. 53071, 1973), Motu proprio (page 322), State v. Sherman (1918, No. 23206, pp 205)


 * Cases using Sua sponte (page 3), cases useing both (Point IV, page 18, Conclusion, page 20)


 * I have not dug in to try to determine if these two very closely related term should be merged into one possibly better articles, but it seems it should and could be discussed. Otr500 (talk) 05:54, 31 January 2020 (UTC)