Talk:Mount Avital

Categories

 * I have also removed Israeli and Syrian parent categories to avoid creating edit wars. The Israeli occupied territories category supercedes inclusion in parent categories. -- nsaum75  ¡שיחת! 22:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Jawlan/Golan
obviously (and not by coincidence) there's only information about the hebrew names of these hills in the occupied territory. and only information about israeli facilities and so on there. as if this land had not not existed or was an uninhabitated area before the israeli occupation since 1967.--Severino (talk) 08:10, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

terms
More correct and neutral terms in accordance with international community views: --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 15:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Please show where it has been decided this is a more correct and neutral term,  since it is a specific type of Israeli settlement.     -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm;  17:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

As has been discussed a million times over and over, this area according to the entire worldview is Israeli occupied, and the Israeli settlements there are seen as Israeli settlements by the entire world, so according to WP rules that is what it must be called, calling it a kibbutz and not Israeli settlement is legitimizing the Israeli presence in southwestern Syria. The fact that you are starting the same conversation that we have had over thousands of articles is extremely disruptive. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:21, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You are the one wanting to make changes, not I, especially when sources can be found referring to many of the settlements as kibuttim or moshav. I don't see the disruption. -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 21:30, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

So what do you want now? you want me to bring sources calling the Israeli settlements "Israeli settlements" ? although this has already been discussed a million times before? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If they can be properly sourced, why not use both terms like at Mount Bental? -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! &lrm; 21:39, 14 March 2010 (UTC)