Talk:Mount Kelly School

One better than the other
The introduction says that Mount Kelly School was created by the merger of two neighboring schools, "one better than the other." Since the person who wrote this did not say which was the better school, and has not explained why it was better, I suggest this piece of editorial be deleted.

Proposed merge
In accord with suggestions in this Teahouse thread I propose that Kelly College be merged into this article. The article now says that "Mount Kelly was established in June 2014 following the merger of two neighbouring Schools, Kelly College (founded in 1877) and Mount House School (founded in 1881)." Is there a reason to retain a separate article for Kelly College? DES (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Support - I agree with the proposed merge. Much of the content of the current Mount Kelly School article refers to Kelly College before the merger (though part of that content will need rewording because it is currently a copyright violation from the school's website). --David Biddulph (talk) 17:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

I feel that we should keep the Kelly College page to preserve the historical significance of the school, it has specific information as a college that does not translate to the new school. Mount Kelly School is a completely new organisation/business regardless of building and location history. We also need to have the two schools separated to help with google SEO, right now it is causing massive conflicts on returned results in the Knowledge Graph. Red Demon 2015 (talk) 10:02, 20 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Support, but the other way round – any useful content from this page should be merged into the pre-existing article Kelly College, which should then be renamed to reflect the name-change. This page was created via AfC by, who I imagine was (understandably!) not aware that we already had a page on the school under a different title, and would otherwise have declined the submission under the quick-fail criterion "already exists". Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:32, 28 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Support Let's just DELETE the 'Kelly College' page and keep 'Mount Kelly School' as it is the most up to date page and the new Schools name. The Kelly College wiki page is still incorrectly being drawn into google search for Mount Kelly. It would, at this stage, be best to delete the Kelly College page.Red Demon 2015 (talk) 15:43, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Ermm,, why does Wikipedia care what results a Google search gives? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:23, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Having both pages is no longer necessary in Wiki. Is anyone willing to resolve the issue? The current school name is Mount Kelly. With regards to google, accurate information in SERPS is paramount to maintain wiki integrity Red Demon 2015 (talk) 14:24, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * , I disagree. Wikipedia simply does not care what results a Google search gives; we're not interested in, and do not tolerate, WP:PROMOTION of any kind. One thing we do pay attention to in order to maintain the integrity of the project is the matter of edits by users with a conflict of interest, and WP:PAID editors in particular. Please read with care the message I have left on your talk page. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:19, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

The suggestion to delete the kelly College page is disgraceful, kelly had a proud record as a minor public school for almost 100 years, that remains an historical fact worthy of retention as a separate item on Wikipedia, it will be many years before Mount Kelly equals that record whatever its merits as an educational establishment. If the current management support this idea I can only think they are afraid of the comparison. Signed William Nigel PAIGE, Old Kelleian (1957 to 62) email: wnigelpaige@aol.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.239.47 (talk) 13:47, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Closing merge proposal: no merge, given clear objections followed by WP:SILENCE. Klbrain (talk) 22:01, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Copyright
Regarding the copyright issue, we do have permission to use any text from the Mount Kelly School website. Email sent to permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org Red Demon 2015 (talk) 10:02, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * As that permission has not yet been logged here, the content is being removed. If that permission is accepted, it may be restored. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:15, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * , acceptable permission has now been received. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:21, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Conflict of interest
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Edit request
There are repeated additions to this page referring to the Mount Kelly International School, which are factually incorrect and refer to media speculation. Whilst this media speculation can of course be mentioned, it is being presented as fact and also with bias, not giving balance to the article. Also the article in English is badly worded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.6.229.182 (talk) 09:15, 8 November 2016‎ (UTC)
 * ✅. I've cut the material down to what is in the sources (SCMP, Standard) and improved the wording. Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:43, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Conflict-of-interest editing continues
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