Talk:Mount Tsukuba

Geology
Interesting to see all the discussions about legends on here, but the glaring mistake of "Most mountains in Japan are volcanic, but Mount Tsukuba is composed of non-volcanic rocks such as granite and gabbro. The area surrounding the mountain is known to produce beautiful granite, and many rock quarries still mine it today." has gone unnoticed. Granite and Gabbro are volcanic rocks so something about this paragraph is horribly wrong.

Someone who actually knows about the geology of Mt Tsukuba needs to rectify it. 148.88.244.109 (talk) 13:15, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Gabbro and granite are igneous rocks but not volcanic - remember there are two types of igneous rocks, intrusive (granites, etc), and extrusive (volcanic rocks). The blaring error is the part which reads something like "most mountains in Japan are volcanic". Hardly the case; while Japan is well known for its volcanoes and has many, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of non-volcanic mountains which far outnumber the volcanic ones. Joseph Hirniak (talk) 20:28, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

legends
Is there any source or additional detail for the legends?
 * As legend has it, thousands of years ago, a deity descended from the heavens and asked two mountains for a place to spend the night. With its great summit and almost perfect cone, Mt. Fuji refused, believing with pride and arrogance, that it does not need the deity's blessings. Mt. Tsukuba, on the other hand, humbly welcomed the honored guest, even offering food and water. Today, Mt. Fuji is a cold, lonely, and barren mountain, while Mt. Tsukuba bursts with vegetation, and is filled with colors as the seasons change. Ancient chronicles say that the sacred progenitors of the Japanese race are enshrined here, the male divinity, Izanagi-no-Mikoto, at Mt. Nyotai, and the female divinity, Izanami-no-Mikoto, at Mt. Nantai. Legends say that the two deities wed and gave birth to other deities, and even to Japan herself.

The last sentence is basically well known in Japanese mythology and the kojiki, but which ancient chronicles are being referred to in the second last sentence? What does "enshrined" even mean, and is this consistent with the separated fates usually attributed to Izanami and Izanagi? In the first sentence, is the deity Izanami/Izanagi or someone else? Where exactly does the story with Fuji, Tsukuba and this deity fit in the chronology of the mythos (particularly how does it relate to: the stirring of the spear to congeal land, the descent off of the bridge from the heavens, the conception and birth of Honshu, and Izanami's burial at Mount Hiba)? Did the mountains exist prior to the creation of the underlying landmasses of Japan? Is this story purely a local lengend (with contradicting legends all over Japan) or was it a detail of the mainstream mythos? Cesiumfrog (talk) 22:17, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Some googling: Still no insight on the deity Fuji spurned. Cesiumfrog (talk) 04:36, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * A photo album confirming that Izanagi & Izanami are currently associated with the twin peaks. Tsukuba-san Jinja Shrine's Nyotai Honden on Mt. Nyotai. It worships Izanami, wife of Izanagi. and Tsukuba-san Jjinja Shrine atop Mt. Nantai on Mt. Tsukuba. This is the Honden for the male god Izanagi. Note there is no mention of any other deities (Near the cable-car: Tsukuba-san Jinja Shrine's Haiden Hall. The shrine is dedicated to both Izanagi and Izanami, Japan's parent gods.). Was also a revolving restaraunt (that's notable) and a helicopter rescue of a hiker.
 * Small hint that this is a major and longstanding mythos: Tsukuba-san Shrine is one of the oldest shrines in this country, and its name appears in the poems written in the 8th and 10th centuries.
 * One of the sources made mention to the ancient orgies that were described in a (since erased) version of this WP article: a sacred bridge of rare design [..] can be seen within the precincts of the Mt Tsukuba Shrine. [Only open during the Onzagawari Festival, April and November 1st.] It is believed that the present festival is a remnant of the ancient KAGAI Festival which was also held in those seasons and is believed to have been an important fertility rite, perhaps involving sexual activity engaged in by anyone who attended ( all we know about the KAGAI, or UTAGAKI, as it is also known, is what can be put together from references to it in the Manyoshu, and the Hitachi no Fu-doki- the ancient chronicles of this part of Japan). It also says that the Japanese identified rainbows with the bridge between heaven and earth, on which Izanagi/Izanami stood when creating the land, and probably echoed in their traditional arched bridges.
 * Tsukuba linked to the creation of the land cryptically (by an unauthoritive source linked to a Cthulu role-playing game): 5th Aya [..] the noble prince Takahito and princess Isako, were married through the “floating bridge” of meditation at the Isa Palace in Tsukuba and took the reins of government. They then stood on this "floating bridge" and probed the mundane world with the halberd they'd been given. On receiving a response, they performed divination using the drops of virgin blood disguised by Isanami as water, dripping from the end of the halberd. At the newly built palace, Takahito and Isako opened their hearts to each other and joined in a solemn vow to dedicate their lives to the revival of the nation. From this day on, Takahito was given the new name of Isanagi and Isako that of Isanami, under which names they acceded as the 7th generation of heavenly sovereigns. . At least suggests more key words..
 * Above seems derived from Hotsuma Tsutae epic (of unknown historicity, alternate of the kojiki): [Izanagi/Izanami] were wedded at the Isa Palace near the Isagawa River running below Mount Tsukuba, southwest of the Taketsubo centre of government (near Tagajo on the outskirts of Sendai City today). Not entirely clarifying (and seems a long way from tsukuba..).

do we REALLY need all those in-line name translations for every flora and fauna? this isn't a translation dictionary. 206.213.251.31 (talk) 20:42, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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