Talk:Mount Vernon, New York/Archives/2012

Citations?
Maybe its just me, but it certainly seems like most of the information in this article needs citations. There is only one reference for the WHOLE article, and it is a very minor one that relates to only one small paragraph in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.130.84 (talk) 16:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not just you. Don't hesitate to contribute any you know of. DCDuring 16:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Possible Vandalism on Born/Grew Up Section
As someone who was born and grew up in this city and knows it well, I am taking out and going to question some of the recent "born/grew up" entries, especially since someone already took out some more obvious vandalism in this area. I'll note who I took out and why (mostly based on my own Google research on the person):

the Ghebreghiorgis family -- I see lots of random entries on people with this last name. I challenge whoever put this in to show a web link as to why they are so famous.

Lorrae Doig (former Jamaican Queen turned animal altruist) -- I did find someone with this name who appears to be a budding young model, actress and pro tennis player (all at the same time), but nothing mentioning animal altruist or Mount Vernon (I assume "Jamaican Queen" has something to do with ethnicity and being a model/actress, not the "queen of Jamaica" and won't comment on it).

Marc Arena (Poet, Producer, and Dissident) -- Again I see nothing on this person, I do however remember a Frank Arena who coached a local Little League team in the late 70s/early 80s and I think the son who played on his team was named Marc. But he doesn't sound like he's real famous and all. hairymon

I agree with you -- I've been in Mount Vernon for 38 of my 41 years and I've never heard of these people either. I just cleaned up some spacing and capitalization issues in the Neighborhoods section. --Misterdoe 04:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Wht is is it that Ralph Branca. widely known Major League Baseball Player with a disinguished career as a pitcher with The Brooklyn Dodgers, Detroit Tigers and New York Yankees is never mentioned in Mount Vernon's history. He is certainly more famous than Damion Easley who was not a life long resident? Edward Bruno

I think it's just that the majority of people who alter Wikipedia articles are young and what Branca is famous for is 50+ years ago so people just don't know. At early 40s of age I may be one of the older (though I doubt oldest) Wiki regulars and the only reason I know of Branca is that I am majorly into baseball history. You're right in the comparison to Easley, he just comes more to mind to younger posters because he played recently for the Mets and was profiled in the local papers as being from here, etc. (though he moved to California at age 10). Probably same issues with not seeing Ken Singleton mentioned much (even though he played a good 20 years after Branca and is in the NY spotlight today as a Yankees broadcaster).

Neutral Point of View?
The section on Fleetwood in the description of the neighborhoods has more the tone of a real estate promotion, than an objective article--"Great four star restaurants", and continuous extolling about upscale business, etc. It should probably be edited out. It detracts from other portions of the articleMeb53 22:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The entire article is lacking in neutrality. Mount Vernon, especially south of the tracks, is (pardon my French) a major shithole.  I want to say the article was written by the Chamber of Commerce, but surely they would have used better grammar.  --Nelson Ricardo 06:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, the South Side of Mount Vernon actually makes Wakefield look nice by comparison. One time when I drove across the border from 4th Street to 241st Street, I could have sworn I had just crossed the line from the city into the suburbs, not the other way around:) -EJ220 04:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The section on the current mayor's administration is long on adjectives and short on specific facts. This needs prompt resolution as there is about to be a Democratic primary (tantamount to election). DCDuring 03:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

The mayor's own people must have written the part about the mayor's successes. One glaring falsehood is the part about the residential development called "The Alexander", which the article says will be built soon. The truth is that that project, including land and approvals, was listed for sale on Craigslist just a month or two ago. Why the editors allow this type of unsubstantiated claim to be shown confuses me. Wikipedia entries often appear at the top of the search engine results and allowing this type of misleading and unsubstantiated information, despite the warnings about disputed neutrality, hurts credibility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.202.49.48 (talk) 15:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

History Section
This article needs a history section. There is nothing of historical interest after the formation of the City !!! The following, removed from the Tranportation section, is the closest thing:

Since early in the 20th century the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad and New York Central tracks have run in below-grade rights-of-way dug for improved rail service and elimination of grade crossings.

I have left it here in hopes that we can find a home for it in a real history section. DCDuring 15:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

The problem is now history is too dominated with the "north side, south side" segregation etc. It is a significant factor in Mt. Vernon's history (and I witnessed it all firsthand), but was poorly written. I tried to clean up as best I could. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.66.211 (talk) 01:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:City of Mount Vernon Seal.gif
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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Questions about local history; moved from article
I found the following in the article, and am moving it here because it is more appropriate for this page:
 * Qustion ?? What Happend to Mayor Sharp in the "Story" and Temp. Mayor Carmella I. Oboni. Then Blackwood, after Blackwood came Davis. There has only Been 3 Black Mayors with in the City of Mt,Vernon History.(to-date)

--Orlady (talk) 02:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Brazilian community
Why does it say in the section "Brazilian community", under demographics that 1 in 10 (10%) of the population is Brazilian, and in the demographics section it says that only 2% is Brazilian? I don't get this, and i want clarification on this...--Daondo (talk) 02:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

What an absolut mess someone has made of the description of Mount Vernon. In a haste to erase the contributions of Ernie Davis some over zealous person wanting to highlight the new mayor deleted so much good history on the city. PLEASE NOTE: WITHOUT A PAST THERE IS LIMITED VISION FOR A FUTURE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.195.16 (talk) 19:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

This page is terrible
Someone please edit it, this is a stain on wikipedia.

74.88.249.247 (talk) 02:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

dyteter
The following coordinate fixes are need for

—92.26.247.70 (talk) 12:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Declined Coords appear to be correct, no problem specified by requester. Feel free to re-request with more specific information. —  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 22:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

dytete
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The following coordinate fixes are need for

—92.26.247.70 (talk) 12:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Declined Coords appear to be correct, no problem specified by requester. Feel free to re-request with more specific information. —  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 22:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)