Talk:Mount of Temptation

Mount Quarantana for sure. Quarantania as well?
Theoderic (quoted here by Denys Pringle), Edward Robinson & Eli Smith and others write -ana, not -ania, so Mount Quarantana. Two variants, or a typo?

The Latin name als shows up as Mons Quarantana, without an i, in good sources, such as Trelawney Saunders's "An Introduction to the Survey of Western Palestine" (here) or Rehav Rubin's "Portraying the Land: Hebrew Maps of the Land of Israel from Rashi to the Early 20th Century" (here). Arminden (talk) 14:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Sources for future article expansion

 * There are 12+ more mentions in the Crusader itineraries translated in Pringle, although Google's previews cuts off how many you can see at any one time.
 * 3 25  94  116 138 144 171 178 195 222 232 281 282 284-5 348 366 368-9 379 389

— Llywelyn II   03:11, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * There's not much there, but the French wiki has a separate entry on the Templar fortification.
 * This nonRS site lists that there were 6 Orthodox monks left in residence in 2020.
 * Great photograph here when it comes out of copyright.
 * The sources listed in this bibliography, although most should go into spinning off a Dok article or on the monastery page

Arabic names
The official name on local government maps and placards seems to be Jebel Quruntul, which the CIA mangled into Jabal al-Qarantal. Mount of Temptation seems to have also been calqued into Arabic جبل التجربـة (Jebel et-Tajriba, "Mount of the Temptation") for some of the other signs. See eg the 1.3 km sign here and parking lot sign here.

I know the Arabic entry for this mountain is parked at جبل الأربعين (Jabal al-Arbayin, "Mount of the Forty") but—as near as I can tell—that's simply a mistake. The official name is Jebel Quruntul, the new "tourist-friendly" name is Jebel et-Tajriba, and "Mount of the Forty" just seems to be a combination of confusing the meaning of Quarantana with the name of a different mountain in Lebanon. — Llywelyn II   20:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Elevation
See here, here, &c. This article previously said Jebel Quruntul had both 350m and 366m of elevation and that has been copied everywhere around the internet where people talk about this mountain. (A)There's a bit over or under 350m of prominence (depending on where you choose to measure from as the low point but that's because Jericho starts about 250m in the hole. (B)There are other nearby higher peaks that look kinda like part of Quruntul from the valley, but those are properly parent peaks and they all have different names so far. The peak under/just beside the fortress is about 138m above sea level. — Llywelyn II   23:00, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Pace that, the Italian archaeologists on site consider that the elevation of the mountain is properly −35m. I guess that's just to the end of the mostly vertical part and then it slopes up to the summit more gradually, but it'd be nice to have some clear and authoritative sources. — Llywelyn II   00:11, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Douka
One of the alternative names listed for the mountain is "Douka" (Δουκα) in Greek. Any connection to the Greek term "δούξ", doux, plural "δούκες", doukes), which was used to translate the Latin Dux? Dimadick (talk) 09:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Or to the Byzantine family, Ducas/Doukas? No, almost certainly not, unless "δούξ" was in use shortly after Alexander and/or comes from a Semetic root. One or the other may have influenced the shift in spelling since the time of the Maccabeans and Josephus though. — Llywelyn II   10:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC)