Talk:Moves like Jagger/Archive 1

Platinum
Platinum in New Zealand is reached with 10.000 not 15.000 http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/international-award-levels.pdf --2811Butterfly (talk) 13:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

No Platinum in NZ is reached with 15,000 and Gold is 7,500.219.89.131.201 (talk) 02:53, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed some of the hideous advertising...
...but you may wish to keep the notice for the time being.

I altered the end of the very first paragraph, which was horrible, poorly-written puff (don't PRs go to school any more?) and further on I killed some peacock words such as "irresistible whistle" and "trademark vocals". If this is reverted, it's someone else's problem - I never get involved in edit wars against people with vested interests in any topic I may try to fix. Blitterbug 22:04, 11 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blitterbug (talk • contribs)

Are ratings from about.com even relevant these days? I'd remove that as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.19.180.179 (talk) 20:11, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Moves Like Jagger
Moves Like Jagger is 2x Platinum in the USA... Source=RIAA Please change that ;) ! --79.199.19.208 (talk) 20:59, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Was changed by Chronisgr --Jnorton7558 (talk) 13:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Reception
So there were NO negative reviews of this bland, auto-tuned crap? I find that very difficult to believe. There need to be some negative reviews included to balance out this entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.160.210 (talk) 17:45, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Introductory Paragraph
"Moves Like Jagger" didn't have 26 weeks in the Top Ten (Hot 100), though it came close. There was a jump into the Top Ten initially, then a week or two out of the Top Ten, followed by a performance of the hit on "The Voice"...causing a huge jump back into the top tier, soon followed by the No. 1 reign. "Moves..." is currently at No. 12, but might move back up to truly have 25 or whatever non-consecutive weeks in the Top Ten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.146.149 (talk) 20:24, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Chart achievement
I corrected the claimed chart achievement for Adam Levine because it didn't match what the source said. Levine is not the first person to be in the top 10 of the Hot 100 both solo and as a member of a group at the same time. For example, John Lennon was in the top 10 simultaneously in 1970 with "Instant Karma!" solo and "Let It Be" with the Beatles. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:19, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Lack of Originality
So no mention that this song heavily samples Modjo's "Lady (Hear Me Tonight)" which samples Chic's "Soup for One"? 24.22.157.228 (talk) 08:34, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 06:23, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Moves Like Jagger → Moves like Jagger – Unreal7 (talk) 12:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

"Like" is a preposition and therefore shouldn't be capitalised. See Someone like You (Adele song). Unreal7 (talk) 12:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Survey

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 * Weak oppose – Shouldn't this be a matter of what name is commonly used for the song in reliable sources, rather than what name we would think is best based on our own preferences? I checked a few of the referenced sources in the article, and all of them capitalized 'Like'. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Per Naming conventions (capitalization) and Naming conventions (music). Erick (talk) 17:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Prior opposition withdrawn. Naming conventions (music) seems to apply here. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:44, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support, also per WP:CAPS. BOVINEBOY 2008 00:21, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

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 * See also the similar move request at Talk:Someone Like Me (Atomic Kitten song) submitted at about the same time by the same nominator. It would probably be better if similarly-motivated move requests like this were submitted together using move-multi rather than one at a time using requested move. I notice that the nominator used Someone like You (Adele song) as the only example here without mentioning that Someone Like Me (Atomic Kitten song) can be considered a counter-example. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:39, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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SOUTH KOREA SALES

 * 2011 - 2,149,469
 * 2012 - 2,229,057 + 190,690 (Moves Like Jagger 2012 GRAMMY Nominees)

--189.172.88.68 (talk) 00:04, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

All Time Chart
Include chats of all time: http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/lady-gaga-scores-another-million-selling-single-2425/ and http://norwegiancharts.com/bestall.asp GabrielDirrty (talk) 02:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Title capitalization
Page name is "Moves like Jagger" while the intro to the article uses "Moves Like Jagger". The latter appears correct unless I don't know something about this song having weird capitalization. The article should probably moved to Moves Like Jagger ? 99.238.174.96 (talk) 08:10, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see the record of the "Requested move" discussion above. In the absence of another formal discussion indicating otherwise, the article should have stayed at "Moves like Jagger" and the capitalization within the article should have been changed as necessary to correspond with that. Please see MOS:CT and WP:NCM for a description of the Wikipedia stylization for composition titles. —BarrelProof (talk) 05:13, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 'Like' is not capitalised when it is a preposition, only when it is a verb; "Moves Like Jagger" reads as 'people called Move have a liking for Jagger'. See also "Someone like You" as opposed to "I Really Like You". Btljs (talk) 09:43, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Is this a number one for Christina Aguilera?
The song is credit to Maroon 5 featuring Christina Aguilera which I have heard means that also she is on teh record, it does not actually count as one of her songs. The article currently states that this song made her the second female artist to make her have a number one hit in three consecutive decades, after Britney Spears. If what I said is true then surely Christina Aguilera has NOT had a number one in three consecutive decades, or if she did it would NOT be due to this song. I though I'd better mention it here before doing any major edits to the article and having them reversed or causing some upset. Can anyone advise here please? 22:28, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Policy discussion in progress
There is a policy discussion in progress at the Manual of Style which affects this page, suggesting that the capitalization of "like" should be removed. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — Llywelyn II   16:35, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

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"Cover versions and in other media"
This section is a mess and loaded with trivia.

Whoever wrote this section does not seem to understand what a paragraph is, so the whole thing is a mass of unrelated sentences. In truth, it is a list of random factoids formatted as if it is a paragraph.

Most to the point, it is comprised of two types of rejected content: WP:COVERSONG and WP:IPC.

For WP:COVERSONG, we have a random selection of people who have covered the song at one point or another. The general guideline limits such cover versions to those that would pass WP:NSONG on their own without the original version. In most cases that would be versions that were recorded, released and charted. That lets in none of the performances listed. The second possibility would be versions discussed in independent reliable sources discussing the song. Sure Jane Smith sang the song in concert a couple of times and articles on Smith and her concert mention it, but the guideline is looking for sources about the song that show Smith's performances are a meaningful part of the song's history. Again, none of those listed meet this.

WP:IPC (and the banner I've added) say such sections -- if included at all -- should discuss the subject's impact on popular culture, not merely be an indiscriminate list of appearances in pop culture (like this one). So the movie Rocky, for example, rather than listing random SNL skits, a joke montage on Seinfeld and a scene in another movie where a character compares himself to Rocky would instead cite reliable sources discussing the film's impact on tourism in Philadelphia and the Philadelphia Art Museum, spread of the Philadelphia dialect and slang, etc. The current section is essentially an indiscriminate list (though formatted as a paragraph) of uses in popular culture, rather than a sourced discussion of the song's impact on popular culture. It is entirely likely that this song has not really impacted popular culture: it did not pull Mick Jagger out of some imagined obscurity, his dancing was not suddenly of renewed interest as a result of the song and biographies on Jagger and/or the Stones written in 5 years will not have chapters dedicated to the impact of this song.

As my explained removal of the section was reverted without explanation of any kind, I will let this sit for a few days, hoping for discussion or explanation as to how the material meets the guidelines presented. Failing that, I will remove the material again. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 13:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Covers
Assuming you are right about the rules of WP:COVERSONG, thanks for this edit. Most of the remaining songs by Maroon 5 could use similar work. I would do it, but I have not studied WP:COVERSONG sufficiently yet. I have all those song on my watchlist, so I will keep an eye and see if those IPs try to revert you. --David Tornheim (talk) 00:27, 5 January 2019 (UTC) VSC - WATERFLAME STALKER X MOVES LIKE JAGGER MASHUP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1370:8129:B27D:1D86:741A:6467:4EC (talk) 22:53, 15 March 2021 (UTC)