Talk:Mr. Eko

Name
The closed-captioning on this episode gives his name as 'Mistereko', no space. Is this a valid Nigerian (or whatever appropriate nationality) name? Did the captioner just forget the space? Is there consensus elsewhere? Radagast 00:17, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

He is a surivor from the tail section, he's seen in promo pics for 48 Days just after the crash.


 * It's purely speculative, but his name may be intended to be a reverse of "Locke" -- as he plays a similar role for the tailies, and fits into the "Black & White" motif of the show. However, that is just supposition and not appropriate for inclusion, unless some writer/producer sheds light on his name's origin. Likewise, I've excised the speculative (and redundant) materials from the article. Additionally, the "Appears In" list is unnecessary, as he's sure to be a staple of this season. Perhaps a "first appearance" is a better notion. LeFlyman 06:17, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Likewise, "Mistereko" sounds a lot like "misdirect." But that's speculation, too.


 * Eko was called "Father Tundi" in "?" - should mention of this be made in the article? Squidward2602 20:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * That's interesting, but we also have to keep in mind that he was pretending to be someone that he was not, and thus Tundi might not be his real name. I don't know whether it's worthy of inclusion or not.  Still, it's notable. --Kahlfin 03:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

We have no idea if his last name is Tunde/Tundi. It is most likely that he was using a fake name.
 * Would it be worthwhile to mention it as an alias he used? 69.254.104.197 19:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I always thought that the name was Mr. Eco, after the author Umberto Eco. This would make sense, given the other characters named after authors/philosophers (John Locke, Rousseau).--Bgraham05 15:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Eko's Background
Should this article focus less on the events on the island and more on Mr Eko's background? Seems too focused on the monster and such in the last paragraph. I change it but it keeps getting changed back. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cane and Able (talk • contribs) 16:34, 12 January 2006.

It keeps getting changed back by black people, black people and Jews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.130.186 (talk) 22:14, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

My guess, my personal guess, based on no real evidence other than what I've seen on the show, is that Mr. Eko is from Rwanda. As such, I believe he was at least present, if not a participant in one form or another in the 1994 genocide. This traumatic and terrible event would definitely explain why guns, deaths and violence in general affect him so much. He wanted to save Sawyer, he was skeptical about doing any harm to Nathan, and he insisted Jack didn't take guns to confront Ana-Lucia. This is all my personal speculation.


 * Mr. Eko claims to be from Nigeria, this is backed up by the Nigeria Naira notes found at the plane crash, soldiers uniforms and vehicle license plates in flashbacks, and his accent. The flashbacks to his past life seem to show something more like Liberia, with warlords abducting children, but that's probably just a mistake due to a lack of knowledge of Nigeria on the part of the writers. Orourkek 10:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

The exchange between Locke and Eko in the hatch seems strange in it's context. When Locke asks Eko what are the odds of the two parts of film being reunited and Eko replies 'don't mistake coincidence for fate" it seems as if Locke is acting like Jack because Locke has throughout the series been a believer of fate and destiny while Jack has been the believer in chance. It is almost as though Locke is asking Eko to speculate on the odds in an attempt to test him, to find out whether he is a 'man of science' or a 'man of fate' and finds that he is, just like Locke, a man of fate. That is my interpretation anyway but I would love to hear other peoples thoughts... would anyone care to share any? posted by L14 30-12-05


 * It's man of faith, and yes, that's what's going on there. How does this relate to the article? Dave 04:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Profession
"Drug Dealer" is not accurate as a description of his previous profession. When presenting the drug smuggling idea to his brother, he states "you know this is not my usual business". So while he did indeed deal in drugs, it would seem that his old profession would be better described as "Warlord" or something similar. --Tofino 21:04, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I also do not believe "Priest" is an accurate title for his profession. From what we have been shown, he has not actually been ordained. Danflave 21:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * What should the profession read then? "Former warlord, currently unordained "priest""? --Tofino 23:39, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * He is not a priest. He had his brother sign forged documents so that he and his henchmen would appear to be priests, but that doesn't make him (or his henchmen) priests, anymore than a forged medical school diploma would make someone a doctor. -- G 03:47, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * We don't know that. The flashback scenes were several years prior. He could well have been ordained in the interim. I think it's good as it stands now, "possible RC priest" Dave 04:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * We don't know if he actually became a Priest, or just acted as one. Is it right for us to assume he did become a priest? My guess is he actually didn't codu  ( t / c ) 15:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Use of past tense in article
This article, as are a couple of others in the Lost canon, is in the past tense, which is not the standard used when writing about works of fiction, drama, etc. (Check out any professional movie review, for example). This drives me nuts, so I'm going to convert it in the next day or so to use present tense throughout. --PKtm 16:43, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * This article is now in both the past and present tense. As for "not the standard used when writing about works of fiction," that sweeping statement is both incorrect and unsourced. Some style manuals advocate past tense; some present tense, depending on the context. Whatever style is chosen, however, it should be consistent.207.69.137.12 06:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Character name
Sorry of this has been brought up before but, the article says Mr. Ekos last name is tunde, in the article somewhere it says he posed as a priest called Mr. Tundi, which may not even be his real name, so I ask that the part saying ekos name is Mr. Eko Tunde be removed until we find out for certain --- Ion Black


 * Exactly, I agree - anyone remember that Kate used to be called Kate Ryan then we found out it was Austen? SergeantBolt (t,c) 10:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

The Move
i realize this was moved to this same page before and i moved it back, so i apologize. i just realized however that, based on the official bio, his name does not include "mr." which is part of his nickname. thus the template should remain mr. eko, but the page should be "eko (lost)" until we learn his last name again, i apologize. Jwebby91 02:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

improving flow
Does anybody object if I take the last half of the article and try to make it flow better, rather than like a report of each episode? Riverbend 13:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I object. I object more than Mr Cohen objected to Mr Hitler's generous offer of (very) temporary accomodation

"Eko dies, happily reunited in death with his brother."
I like that. Props to whoever wrote it.

Agreed, a poetic and accurate way of describing it. but it was removed. . . Riverbend 20:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Spoiler freakout
Lead sentence is a spoiler. "was". BabuBhatt 22:40, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Fixed. (see also this.) --Pentasyllabic 22:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'm plenty bold, I was just going to start a discussion about it since others freakout about spoilers. BabuBhatt 22:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Yemi's death
Anyone notice the connections between Yemi and Jesus? Eko goes looking for Yemi, and he goes to his grave (aka, the plane). He discovers rocks guarding the entrance, and has to move them (like the entrance to the Joeseph of Arimathea). And, when Eko enters the plane, the body is gone (like Jesus'). Obviously, with Eko and Yemi's Catholic background, I don't think this is a coincidence. Anyone think this should be added?
 * Maybe under Trivia? (Bishusui 02:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC))
 * I think it is a good idea, and maybe a deliberate paralell, but personally I don't think it qualifies for trivia.  codu ( t / c ) 15:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I hadn't picked up on Yemi/Jesus until I read this, but I had wondered about Eko/Jesus based on Eko's not speaking for 40 days/Jesus wandered for 40 days. Wasn't there also a miracle involving Jesus and someone coming back from the dead? By the way, at the airport Eko was told that the plane took off from Gate 23, not at 8:23.

Move
Ok, Eko is his name on ABC's website. But in there are also "James Ford" and "Hugo Reyes", and in Wikipedia, their names are mixed with the nicknames. So, why not "Mr. Eko"? igordebraga ≠ 16:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * aren't their nicknames in quotes? would it be "Mr." Eko? Riverbend 23:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Riverbend is right. They are in Wikipedia as James "Sawyer" Ford and Hugo "Hurley" Reyes. What exactly do you propose we change Eko to?  codu ( t / c ) 12:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * To Mr. Eko, like he said. I agree.
 * As far as puting the quotes around "Mr." though, no I don't think you would. Because "Mr." isn't a nickname, it's a legitimate title. One Eko just happens to be better known with than without. I would think the only time you'd put qoutes around a title is if it's one they don't actually have. Like if he was called Dr. Eko, but wasn't really a doctor. To me, putting quotes around "Mr." makes it look like you're trying to imply he's really a woman or something. - DocNox 02:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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mention after the island
Hurley mentions that he is playing chess with a seemingly invisible Mr. Eko. Should this be a new section or added on to the end of the 3rd season one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ehccheehcche (talk • contribs) 03:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

"He's Dead, Jim"
In reference to "The Cost of Living" episode. To paraphrase Star Trek's "Bones" McCoy droll facts of life and death in space. I suppose that the actor who played Mr. Eko unintentionally did a favor to the producers and writers by having the plot move in a different direction, sans the Eko character. As we've come to know the situation, the MIB was the Smoke Monster, and the contentious rival on the island with Jacob for control. Since it's been established that the monster can assume the form of dead corpses on the island, and uses them to manipulate the survivors there (ultimately to their demise,)and by lying and otherwise driving ppl insane to expedite its ends, then Mr. Eko's death was a stroke of luck for the 815 crew. Why would I say this? It's because Eko was A WILD CARD AND A MAD DOG!!! With his volatile and warped personality (as mass murderer-turned-guilt-ridden-and-pentanent -man-of-the-cloth) this was the made-for order proscription of a potentially perfect killing tool to exterminate the survivors, AND even perhaps the "Others", as Eko was uniquely capable of. We've seen how "Smokey" successfully drove and manipulated Rousseau, and later Claire e to do his bidding to kill as many of the inhabitants on the island as possible. With Eko, MIB had the "trifecta" puppet: Menacing strength and prowess, religious fervor, and needy for direction and purpose. The "815" people really didn't understand whom or what they had in their midst. Perhaps Ben Linus did! "Smokey" wanted to use Eko ASAP, so while the nefarious Nigerian was recuperating from his attack by the "Dharma Bears", "Smokey" arranged a terrifying image to Mr. Eko that the latter was well familiar with (that being the image of SHANGO'S FIREY JUSTICE). As the legend goes in the West African Orisha myths, Shango, the original Thunder God, was also the deity of swift and exacting justice; he would send the "dancing fire" to chase the guilty out of every abode of safety and rest until the evil one confessed. Bravo to the writers and the actor for inserting this into the plot). When confronted with "Smokey", using Eko's dead brother Demme to manipulate him, the Monster gets a big surprise and learns that Eko, in his own mind, doesn't think he's done anything wrong, as he thought he was protecting his brother. This curiously enrages the monster who quickly and gruesomely dispatches Eko. Perhaps "Smokey" surmised that Eko was too volatile even for "it" to manipulate, and therefore was of no use to him in any attempt to kill the island's inhabitants. Moral of this episode is that one should never trust a religious fanatic of any stripe. Just like those two hapless fools who recently DELIBERATELY sailed into Somali waters and let themselves be captured, and quickly killed by the corsairs. All in the name of "faith". (From a previous comment, dated in the spring of 2010A.D.) --167.206.233.254 (talk) 18:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)--173.77.193.222 (talk) 16:18, 21 July 2013 (UTC)Veryverser — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.11 (talk)

Incorrect statements in article
"After investigating the "fake miracle" of a girl who came back to life after drowning in London in 2004, Eko returned to Australia on Oceanic Airlines Flight 815. This plane crashed and left Eko, along with a few other survivors, on a deserted island." -- Flight 815 was flying from Australia, not to.

"On Eko's 27th day on the island, he sees his brother and chases him until he is confronted by the smoke monster. When he refuses to confess, he is thrown about by the "monster" and eventually dies." He arrived on the island the same time as the rest of the survivors. When he dies in season 3, it is the survivor's 60th or 70th or so day, and should also be the same for Eko. I think whoever wrote this is counting from the day Eko was first seen on screen or something. Matthewedwards : Chat  19:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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