Talk:Mr. Game & Watch

Question
why is he not coloured?
 * Because Game & Watches are black and white. Andre ( talk ) 13:59, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Not all of the Game & Watch games are black and white, but the monochromatic aspect of Mr. Game & Watch (except when he uses the Metal Cap) is indeed an allusion to the earliest Game & Watch games. Nidorino 07:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh jiz.
This article needs to be cleaned up. Thus, a cleanup tag is in order. Come on, the damned thing is half SSBM, half cartoon and nadda for the games he first appeared in! -- A Link to the Past 10:34, July 31, 2005 (UTC)


 * The way I see it, Mr. Game & Watch should just be reffered to the character in SSBM, not anything else. This article should probably be about the SSBM character, and G&W games should go in the Game & Watch article.  And the cartoons... uh, I had no idea Mr.Game & Watch ever appeared in a cartoon, plus I'll bet he wasn't even reffered to as Mr. Game & Watch back then.  The name of this cartoon isn't even given, and those credits seem to hog a lot of the article. --gakon5 22:05, August 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * Same here about him being created in SSBM. He made later appearances in Game & Watch Gallery 4 and cameos in games like WarioWare: Twisted!  And the Game & Watch series is not a series of games.  It's more of a generation of games, like NES games or SNES games.  He's an amalgamation of Game & Watch characters that looked alike (Ball protagonist, Parachute protagonist) and others that didn't (Greenhouse protagonist, Flagman protagonist). Nidorino 07:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I've tried to tidy things up a bit, but as for the cartoon, the name of the creator in a google search returns this page and no else. After wiki'ing the voice actors, I came across Peter Cullen, who apparently did voice acting in something called "Saturday Supercade," which featured other Nintendo characters, perhaps this cartoon was part of that? Mallocks 19:02, 11 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Possibly, although G&W sort of went through a "rise and fall" sort of thing; like he pretty much disappeared in the gaming world after other consoles came out, and then he reappeared in SSBM. I don't think I ever reffered to the G&W guys as Nintendo characters, although they pretty much are.


 * Here's what we should do, maybe: start off with some stuff about the old G&W games, then a section on SSBM, and then a small section on the cartoon; un-tag the article and un-stub it.. and life is good. --gakon5 (talk)


 * Could we possibly, please, add in a slight note in the SSBM section on how the heck you play this guy? Not a strategy guide or anything, just a couple lines on his strengths and weaknesses like was done with the Link article. I'd do it, but the only thing I've been able to figure out is to do his trampoline bounce over and over again while drunkenly yelling "BOING" and laughing like a manic. --Myrkabah

CONS: Light Laggy moves Relatively slow running and walking speeds Several moves that are almost useless or highly situational Can be chain thrown Probably worst shield in the game -credit to kitfox

PROS: Powerful Throws are excellent set ups Great recovery Very cool Useful air attacks Great wavedash to make up for shield Good priority Decent CC, and CCC

oh ya can anyone tell me waht the heck his foward air attack is? what game did that come out of?

It's a credit card,& I don't know whare it came from.--DarkHero 23:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Not a credit card - it's a box from the Mario Bros. G&W game (Fryguy64 12:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC))


 * Actually It's a cement block, from Cement Factory. That ladder game. Fourange 23:47, 17 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Woah... nevermind that. I found out it IS indeed a package from the Mario Bros. Game. I thought Fryguy meant, like.. a block. Sorry 'bout that. Fourange 17:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

To Do List
Here's what I think the article's layout should look like:


 * For the beginning, a part about G&W and the G&W character, and how he was given that name,
 * then a section on his character in SSBM, as well as his B button moves possibly,
 * then a small section on the cartoon he was in, minus the episode listing and credits. Tho we need a little more intel on this subject possibly.

Just my thoughts on how we might go about cleaning up this article. BTW I'ma remove that list of credits, and maybe the episode listing, as it just seems out of place. --gakon5 (talk)

Spoiler Warning
Is how to unlock Mr. G+W considered a spoiler? --gakon5 (talk)

That was only a rumor
It has not been officially confirmed that G&W will not be in SSBB. It is likely that rumor was false. Please do not put up any speculation like that in the future.


 * Thanks for saying that. I was just about to put something in the discussion about MG&W's removal. 70.111.78.133 01:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

SSBM moveset
We really don't need that. Wikipedia isn't a player's guide, and a list of button combos for a video game isn't encyclopedic. I didn't completely delete that section, but I hid it in comment tags... Powerslave (talk-contribs) 02:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Sausage or Bacon?
What does he throw when he performs Chef? Is it sausage, or bacon? I'm just wondering because someone recently changed the article to say bacon instead of sausages. -- Luigi Maniac  13:01, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Why would it matter? --91.105.38.122 09:56, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well because as an encyclopedia as much as possible we try to present facts and this is one of the easy ones, it should be absolutely verifiable one way or the other. Mallocks 21:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's Sausage. It says so on his trophy in Melee. Plus, you can see where they connect if you pause in-game. Fourange 23:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Age?
I think Mr. Game & Watch is a year older than Mario (though Mario's age is pretty much unkown), since "Jumpman" was created a year after Mr. Game & Watch. In the actual article, would it be cool to say that he's around Mario's age for this reason? Fourange 18:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I found out that Mr. Game & Watch is 27. Fourange 18:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The character's age is pretty impossible to determine since we really don't know anything about him. Also, how did you "find out" that his age is 27? Jeff Silvers 16:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

The games his moves were based off of?
Could we put that in the article? I happen to have a list... Fourange 17:36, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * See SSBM moveset here in the talk page. It isn't really encyclopedic to list every single one of his moves, even if they do derive from Game & Watch games. Disaster KirbyTalk 17:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not talking about listing his moves. I know this isn't a guide. I'm talking about listing the GAMES his moves were BASED off of. Fourange 18:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What's the point of doing that? There's already a List of Game & Watch games on Wikipedia, so relisting the games that his moves are based off of would seem like trivial cruft, in my opinion. Disaster KirbyTalk 18:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Brawl status
Check out those little icons on the Brawl website for each update. Each corresponds to the icons in the game. Melee had 14 franchise icons, Ice Climbers are icon 14, Animal Crossing is 15, and there's one last icon spot open before 14, it being 13. This suggests to me that Game and Watch is returning, his being the last Melee franchise to need to return; however, it is obviously not solid enough for Wikipedia to go about saying "MR. GAME AND WATCH IS CONFIRMED GUYS". However, would this be notable enough to mention on the article, while still making it clear that this is not 100% confirmation? Evan1109 19:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really, since it is speculation. It's highly probable that it is true, but it's still speculation. Disaster KirbyTalk 19:33, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * King K. Rool has a bit about this (last time I checked, anyway.) Why shouldn't Mr. Game & Watch? Fourange 18:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Because it's speculation, which Wikipedia isn't supposed to have. Di</b>saster K<b style="color:Purple;">i</b>rbyTalk 18:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

That shield thing is wrong.
Z-Shielding fully covers him. Plus, as long as that competitive sidenote thing is there, that citation tag won't leave. Fourange 18:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, but don't you see, it doesn't need a citation "since effective use of him against a skilled opponent often requires complex mind games." Sometimes I really wonder just who is editing this thing ... Anyway I think if it remains without citation for much longer I'll just remove it as it appears to be a magnet for additional unverifiable opinions. Mallocks 22:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge with Game & Watch
I believe that this article needs to be merged with the Game & Watch article. There is already a section about the character on this page, but it should be expanded using some more information from this article, as well as other information that anyone else might know of. The SSB data is not appropriate other than the mention that the character is part of the game and that he was first seen in that game (if that is indeed the case).

I believe that once these edits are complete, the page should be converted to a redirect, not deleted, so that others may more easily find this information. — OranL (talk) 09:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree with the plan. Oh, and thanks for adding the merge thing for me. These darn PRODS don't work out much at all, do they? :P ZeroGiga (talk) 23:09, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I just prefer not to involve the administrators that usually handle PRODs, because they tend not to do anything but delete the article. This way, if more people are involved in getting the good information into the correct article, it isn't lost forever! — OranL (talk) 23:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. Please head over to the Game & Watch article to find the Mr. Game & Watch section. Feel more than free to edit this section, as I am not very knowledgeable on this subject. I have left many cite tags to let people know that most of this information is not referenced and needs someone who knows more about this subject. — OranL (talk) 20:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, I don't like it. It's missing alot of things here. ZeroGiga (talk) 17:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Like what? Why didn't you add them? — OranL (talk) 19:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)