Talk:Mudkip/Archive01

Should Sugimori's new art for the starters be used on the wiki? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.57.121.167 (talk • contribs).

GA Failure
Reasons -


 * Stubbish article
 * No references
 * Unsourced pokédex entry
 * No manga entry

Good starting, but this is extrememly stubbish. See Combusken, which is also on GA, for the level required. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 21:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, there are two references.-- A c1983fan  ( talk  •  contribs ) 21:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Requested Review
Since you requested comments on the Wikiproject:Nintendo page, here's my 2 cents. This article needs to explain more of the pokemon terminology. It's preferred that Wikipedia articles about fictional characters assume that the reader doesn't know anything about the source the character appears in -- in this case, the Pokemon video games, card games, manga, etc. Examples of things that should be explained:


 * What's a "starter" Pokemon?
 * What kind of "series" is the "Pokemon Adventures" series? Is that a comic? A cartoon?
 * What's the "Advance Generation Arc"?
 * What's a "widely used basic water type"? This is a card in the collectable card game, right? What makes a water-type "basic", and widely used by who? (In tournaments? Or is it just a common card. Do you have a source for that information?)
 * What's a Ground-type? Explain what it means to be a combination water-ground type.
 * In the video game section, there's this line: Due to Mudkip's weakness to electricity, most people evolve it into Marshtomp at the first chance they get. What does it mean to evolve something?

You might try looking at the article for Bulbasaur, which is featured, for ideas. Good job adding information and references to this article! -- Lee Bailey(talk) 04:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I addressed most of those concerns you gave.-- A c1983fan  ( talk  •  contribs ) 16:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * definitely getting better. I would also write out "EX" as "Expansion" or "Expansion pack" and write out "the card game" rather than abbreviated TCG. It took me a minute to guess what those stood for. :) -- Lee Bailey(talk) 19:01, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * EX doesn't stand for anything. It is what nintendo is naming all the cards with.-- A  c1983fan  ( talk  •  contribs ) 19:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for spreading the wiki-love. :) This article's a lot easier to understand now for people unfamilar with Pokemon. Sorry I didn't understand the whole "EX" thing, but it's clearer now from context anyway. The only thing I can see at this moment is that you may need more information on the it's appearance in the anime, unless its appearance there was minor. But good work making this article more accessable. -- Lee Bailey(talk) 13:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yah, I know. It's appearence is actually pretty major (from what I can tell, at least), but I don't watch the anime.-- A  c1983fan  ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

PS:You are welcome!-- A c1983fan  ( talk  •  contribs ) 13:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry that I have not been watching this page (I forgot to put it on my watchlist when I first reviewed it). I see you have done a lot to improve the explanation of pokémon related topics. There are two things that I would suggest elaborate on further. As I mentioned before the term "overused" means nothing to anyone who does not have a pretty indepth knowledge of the Pokémon world. In order to figure out what it meant I had to click the source and read through the pages it lead me to. Sources are meant to be verifiers, not mandatory reading. The other thing that needs a minor expansion (no more than a sentence or two) is when you mention the term "'star' card". Once again, one who does not partake in the Pokemon Trading Card Game would have no idea what this meant. (A bit of context would go along way). There has been a significant amount of improvement from when I first read it. Great job!-- SomeStranger ( t 01:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Pokédex refs
If you are referencing a pokedex entry, do it correctly, as in Torchic. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 21:10, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

To do
This is close to GA, couple more things needed -


 * lead image needs fair use rationale
 * the references still need formatted as such -


 * For Pokédexes


 * For all other references (not books)


 * You need to have a small list of the available toys/merchandise relating to Mudkip (see Torchic for a fabulous example).
 * Add some descriptive intros, (like those in some of the more advanced articles) I know they are generic, but non-Pokémanics will be utterly lost without them

Good luck and if you need a hand just ask, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 19:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Axolotl/Mudpuppy
The morphology of the mudkip is more suggestive of the Axolotl (aka "mudpuppy") to me than of the mudskipper. The gill structures on the sides of the head, the eyes, the legs, and the tail are what I am comparing.

Yes, but it's Wooper, not Mudkip, that is based off the Axolotl. I mean, the French name for Wooper is 'Axoloto'.