Talk:Mudumalai National Park/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Kpddg (talk · contribs) 02:34, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello BhagyaMani. I will be reviewing this article over the coming days. Please let me know for any problems. Thank You. Kpddg  (talk)  02:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Lead Section

 * This section has several unsourced statements, which have been marked. Please add reliable citations.
 * As already explained in my recent edit summary, ALL of these statements are referenced in the sections. In all the GA + FA pages I contributed too, the leads are summaries of info provided in sections, without repeating sources. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay then Kpddg  (talk)  10:00, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

History

 * '₹' sign comes before the amount. It says that the project had been extended till 2021. What happened to it now?
 * Done. Re extension: if funds will be released for the comings years, it may be too early now to announce this now. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:34, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Geography

 * There is an unsourced statement, which has been marked.
 * This sentence IS sourced by the ref at the end of the 2nd sentence. To make this more clear, I placed a ; between the 2 sentences. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Mudumalai National Park is located in the eastern hills of the Western Ghats, covering 321 km2 (124 sq mi), at an elevation range of 850–1,250 m (2,790–4,100 ft). Add commas
 * I revised the sentence so that commas are not needed. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * In climate, all the sources are old. Are the figures still the same?
 * Climate does not change that frequently. And later authors state basically the same figures, but most without referencing. So I traced these figures back to these two sources. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * 👍 Kpddg  (talk)  10:01, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Flora

 * Reference 18 is very old (from 2008). Update that and the corresponding sentence.
 * Old does not make it unvalid. And it's not like botanists are inventoring plant species in the same area every other decade: see the next source no. 14 dating to 1978. Number of species in MNP hasn't changed significantly since then. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fine. I was just checking, since you have a better knowlegde of the topic. Kpddg  (talk)  10:03, 6 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Otherwise, it looks fine

Fauna

 * There are too many images here, causing overcrowding. Only keep the best ones and format them better. Currently, it is not looking very neat.
 * I fully agree!! Please let me know HOW MANY do you suggest to keep? I'll remove 2 now. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:58, 6 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Images to remove
 * •Moyar River Theppakadu Mar21 A7C 00304.jpg
 * •Gaur on the bank of Moyar in Sigur Range AJTJohnsingh.jpg
 * •Crested Hawk Eagle Rodent Mudumalai Mar21 DSC01433.jpg
 * This should be fine BhagyaMani. Kpddg  (talk)  10:07, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, there was one editor who kept insisting on many more images than displayed now. And I think that the 2 in the section Flora represent both flora and habitat types in MNP quite well, so opt to keep them both. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:39, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Since the one of the crested hawk eagle has a quality img tag, I would like to keep this as well. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:39, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Instead of the gaur, I propose to show one of Asian elephants, also because MNP is an important ele corridor in the Western Ghats. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:39, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fine @BhagyaMani, go ahead. Just make sure that it does not get too crowded Kpddg  (talk)  12:23, 6 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Mammals
 * Looks fine


 * Birds
 * Good


 * Reptiles
 * Good


 * Fishes
 * Fine

Threats

 * Update reference 56 and the corresponding sentence
 * I haven't come across a later estimate of firewood need. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:09, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * 2019 forest fires here have not been mentioned
 * As you surely noticed, I refrain from using newspapers as sources. Verma et al. (2017) is the latest peer-reviewed article on forest fires in MNP I was able to find. If the 2019 fire is mentioned in such an article, I will be happy to reference this here. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:09, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * There are several news sources I found. E.g. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/forest-fire-in-mudumalai-tiger-reserve-contained-to-an-extent/article26378063.ece This is just one, there are others as well.... Kpddg  (talk)  10:17, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * See section External links : one is already listed there. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:25, 6 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes. I just feel that since it was a major fire, it should be listed in the article. Kpddg  (talk)  10:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This fire is anyway covered in a separate page listed under See also. – BhagyaMani (talk) 10:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fine, atleast change 'between 1999 to 2013' to 2019 or something and change the sentence. Because this cannot just be ignored in the article.  Kpddg   (talk)  12:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

On Hold For Improvements
This article is placed for a time period of 1 week. Further decisions will be taken after the above corrections are made. Thank You. Kpddg  (talk)  05:40, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Final Decision

 * Since you left all the GAList checks empty, i.e. displaying the symbol : what do you think is still missing for promotion to GA? – BhagyaMani (talk) 13:50, 6 January 2022 (UTC)


 * @BhagyaMani I am waiting for the image problem to be resolved. I feel one of the forest pic can be removed Kpddg   (talk)  14:22, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Then I opt for the 2nd, as forest is also shown in the ele pic. Ok with you? – BhagyaMani (talk) 16:10, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes Kpddg  (talk)  16:25, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. And added one more ref as a thank you to you. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:09, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks BhagyaMani for your contributions. This article is. Kpddg  (talk)  02:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And I thank you for cooperation and suggestions for improving this page. I think this is the second page on an Indian protected area with a GA status. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:36, 7 January 2022 (UTC)