Talk:Muisca raft

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Review of current sources
Currently there are 6 references of varying quality. My assessment of them: I'm looking to support what's currently written with reliable sources, but seems like some of these will need to go. GuineaPigC77 (talk) 19:44, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Reliable. Banrepcultural seems to be information published by the Gold Museum of the Bank of the Republic (Colombia), where the artifact is held.
 * 2) Broken.
 * 3) Not reliable because it's YouTube.
 * 4) Not reliable. It's informative but not peer-reviewed.
 * 5) Not sure? Is a Smithsonian channel documentary considered reliable?
 * 6) The sixth reference appears to be a note from a calculation that seems like WP:OR.


 * I created a Further reading section, and I've started adding reliable sources to it. I'll do my best to support what is currently written. GuineaPigC77  ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 22:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the Smithsonian video should be considered reliable according to WP:PUBLISHED because, although it's a video and happens to be hosted on YouTube, it was produced and linked to by the Smithsonian Institution, which is reputable. GuineaPigC77  ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 01:28, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I removed the calculation based on weight which appears to be WP:OR; it's not in the citation given. Furthermore, the weight comes from another source altogether, |here, which does not appear to have any editorial oversight and isn't peer-reviewed so I'm removing that as well. GuineaPigC77  ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 09:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

The four great civilizations in the Americas
Currently the first sentence includes: "who established one of the four great civilisations in the Americas". I'm not sure where this is coming from. What are the other three? GuineaPigC77 ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 21:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

The old lead was blatant plagiarism
Wow I was looking for images of stamps of the raft and found this. The old lead was a word-for-word copy. GuineaPigC77 ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 04:53, 1 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I just did an emergency edit to remove the plagiarized material from the lead. The lead had already been re-worked a few times, but there was still remaining material that was verbatim. It should be okay now, but if anyone wants to double check my edit that would be great. GuineaPigC77  ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 05:33, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * After making this edit, I ran this copyvio tool and it returned "Violation unlikely". GuineaPigC77  ( 𒅗𒌤 ) ☕ 06:00, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

My thoughts
I think all those cities of gold in the Americas all of that was really golden cities the aliens were there to help all of the tribes all of the natives grew up in gold they didn't have gold fever like the Europeans did. The Europeans had to deliver gold they came all that way the natives could see that the Europeans were sick and they wanted to get rid of the Europeans.little did Raleigh know gold was in the ground and the aliens were not going to help these dirty people from Europe because they had no real clue about what it is to be a good person.they had blood on their hands and they could not even have a small chance to do the right thing with all that pressure and the way the expeditions were created of criminals that had to go they really didn't want them to be executed on the soil they were better of sending them to sea and they'll most likely all die.i mean if some king back in the 1500s gave me the power to be able to get all the scum from England and boats and weapons all of the soldiers on the boats had blood on their hands I believe each day you were given a choice every man had to kill someone to take their place and their lives were so crazy interested in years the same thing and they left a bloody bad trail of death and diseases. The American natives were a good peaceful people. And the gold was in the ground and that gold mine is still in good business. Trillions of ounces have been there for years.still is. It's been the longest and most profitable mines to this day in the world. I think the aliens help bury the gold and they were all in the same way as the natives and the aliens were working on it together. Together they had the power of God so they thought they had but they were all of the same people who had been a good people and they embraced the gods from the sky there is no way they could built all the pyramids and stone henge around the world. Tyler Hall 801-300-1239 2601:282:1F32:D6B:7FEA:3A3D:B467:5504 (talk) 07:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)