Talk:Multimedia University

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In case anyone wonders about the accuracy of the facts in this write-up, I study in this university, and I walk Melaka Campus daily, and I visit Cyberjaya Campus a minimum of three times a year. The photo I took on my own. I am wondering if it will be alright to include my university logo here, but I'm not too sure about copyright and etc issues... (I have a university logo which I made myself, but I'm unsure if the university will be alright with their logo appearing somewhere they didn't know?)

How about add in course provided?


 * There is no need to mention the courses that the university offers though it's alright to say "the university mainly offers engineering courses" or something like that. __earth 22:30, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

TM company
Okay, maybe putting that "A TM Uni" stuff goes a bit too far (but the thing was on their website!!), but MMU was always first and foremost a company set up by TM. Everyone knows that no any actual significant R&D was ever produced (that honor goes to TM R&D). And that is even before we begin on the tuition fees or "anyone can enter" enrollment qualifications. Any other ex-MMU grads agree with me?


 * Not a MMU grad but you should write it in proper sentence and not use the pic "a tm company" like a label at every TM related entity. Wikipedia is not a place for advertisement. __earth (Talk) 15:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * An MMU grad here. I completely disagree with you. As an ex-student in MMU the statement "Everyone knows that no any actual significant R&D was ever produced" shows just how little you know about your own university, not to mention the other rather inaccurate stuff which you're spewing here. --203.106.58.83 00:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it is not true. Because it is really not like anyone can enter here. I have seen people getting refused. Yes, there are some not so smart students, but mostly they are ok. And about research, I think you should look at the MMU front page now, it will really help you to understand that things are really going on over there. Oh ya, I am MMU grad by the way. Cdtavijit 19:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Added Controversies
Please do not delete this section. It is legitimate and adds to the overall discussion from all aspects both good and bad regarding the University
 * this section need some pretty dramatic cleanup and citations, though. frymaster 16:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

adding info for cyberjaya new phase
Ex MMU student and current faculty member here. A lot of new things including the new phase and new new developments are going on. Today I added some including two pictures, one taken by me and another by Jafni, my fellow colleague. I was just wondering if any MMU student or lecturer willing to contribute more in the articles of the cyberjaya part. I have also taken quite a few pictures and would be happy to upload it. But I need more articles / more paragraphs written because when I uploaded the swimming pool, it went over melaka campus part. Since I am not from melaka so I cant write anything about them.

So anyone up for cyber campus writing? Cdtavijit 19:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

What is MMU ranking inside MY?
MMU has been developed widly in recent 10 years but I thinks it takes a long time to reach UTM, UM ,... .
 * Was that a question, or a statement? -Chan Yin Keen | Talk 12:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think thats a statement. The only thing I wonder is, is it from a MMU grad or other uni grad. Actually in terms of ranking, so far I have not seen any proper unbiased ranking of Malaysian universities anywhere. So, unable to comment on that. Besides, since i am from MMU, my view will be biased. =D Paul 03:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

That was an statement.I am not a MMU graduate but as I compare the facilities and faculties between these universities I see MMU far behind UTM, UM, UPM,... . But I am eager to read your opinion on this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * I myself have no opinion on this because as Paul said, there is no proper ranking system. That said, I haven't searched the far reaches of the internet to see if such a thing exists. However, I don't think it would be irrelevant if we could find something that mentions MMU's place in this hierarchy of local universities. If there is something on the net or in print media that has such a thing, good. If there isn't, well, it's probably better off left unmentioned. -Chan Yin Keen | Talk 01:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I do agree with Paul. Until now there are no proper and unbiased ranking of Malaysian universities. Most ranking released related to public universities have some political agenda. --S12796 (talk) 14:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

IMLC?

 * == IMLC ==


 * IMLC is english languge center of Multimedia University that located in both Cyberjaya and Melacca campus.They goal is improve english skill of students and make them ready to start their major in their subjest in faculty.
 * This part of MMU have had a lot of problem such as low service in education,they can not improve student's skill very much and students right that they don't care about it.
 * Another problem is about testing; when you sit for placement test, the test show your level in English :Elementry,Intermediat,Advance.
 * The IMLC done a lot of errors in chose correct level in English class and they put a lot of skillful students in Advance level whether they pu a lot of students with weak english skill in their Subject in Faculty.
 * Many students believe that the IMLC is not for education and it is a part to make money for the University so Student call Multimedia University or MMU is Money Maker University.

Now to just seperate fact from POV. Anyone able to assist in that? Chan Yin Keen | Talk 15:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Why delete notable professors?
I have not been logging to wikipedia for a long time and I just saw that someone deleted the notable professors!! Why would you do that? And the person who deleted named is waikipedia - so suspicious. Paul 07:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Faculties
There has to be another way to list the faculties (or do we really even need to list them out??) rather than to throw on a list with links to each faculty. Right now it's quite absurd as it's turning into a list of links than an explanation of what those faculties are and what they do. I'm not going to touch them yet as I have no idea what to replace it with yet. Chan Yin Keen | Talk 16:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Research Officer or Assistance?
In the FOE website vacancies, there are a lot of empty positions as Research Officer or Assistance. does anybody know such things exists or anybody used such things? Who knows how many students exists in master of telecommunications? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.207.238.218 (talk) 08:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

GA failed
This article is better than Swinburne University of Technology Sarawak Campus and Management & Science University, which I just failed, but it still has a long way to go. Please see WikiProject Universities for the general layout of a university article, and look at FAs and GAs listed at WikiProject Universities/Accomplishments for an idea of what this article should aspire to for GA status. Dylan 15:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Half of this article ("Faculties," "Academic Centers," and "Centres of Excellence") is just lists and link farms. If these centers are important, they should be described in prose.
 * In general, the coverage of the university is sparse.
 * "E-Scroll" has an entire section, but it never explains what "e-scroll" is or why it's important.
 * Notable professors and alumni -- don't use bullet lists, describe them in prose.
 * References -- do format in bullet list.
 * In general, don't add external links except in the "External links" section.
 * There are no in-line citation used.
 * Some nice PD images, but Image:Mmulogo.jpg needs a fair use rationale. I'd also recommend spreading out the images more discriminatingly than sticking them all in the same place.

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Issue on deletion
Since the article facing deletion, person who wrote the article and also the Multimedia University personnel may gives some responses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by S12796 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

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Total Redo
I'm going to do a total redo based on my work on the Malay page for this University. Just in case anyone wants to do something like this also. Ambidextrose (talk) 07:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Ambidextrose, I am not confident with your edits after this version. Many sections and contents that you've added, they all sounds promotional to me, it further stands my point that you have added citations with the university's website and sources closely related to the subject. Without independent source, they shouldn't be in the article, please see WP:PROMO and WP:RS. Thus, I highly suggest to undo those edits. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 10:42, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? I'm following the style of UCAS and several other B-rated articles. Some of them refer to primary sources because they are trivial information. Some of the references are old references readded back to the article. I've tried my best reducing promotional content since there isn't a lot of information you can gather with OSINT online. Ambidextrose (talk) 10:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Let me make it clear, no source shows they are not notable and are not deserved to be in the mainspace. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 11:09, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Like, you have the ability to change and edit some of the content to be non-promotional. Why not help and change out the content rather than just curate and asking for edits to be undo-ed. Ambidextrose (talk) 10:56, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I am trying to appreciate you contribution. Otherwise, would have removed them like the way I did to the other universities in Malaysia. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 11:12, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with you saying it's like a Brochure, I'm directly referencing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California#Student_body and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_University#Athletics for the style of article for this page. If you say it's like a brochure, then remove those as well. Go and edit those pages so they're less like "Brochures". Ambidextrose (talk) 05:33, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This article is already a "Stub". I'm referencing those and using the same language and information given. I dare you to do it to those articles as well. You've removed a large portion of the same style of the article. I don't believe that the article was more promotional than some of the other foreign universities that are within the same format. That would be double standards and wouldn't improve the article whatsoever. You didn't even contribute to help edit out what part of the article was too promotional and just entirely undo the entire 19K words I've submitted.Ambidextrose (talk) 05:34, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Partner institutions section
@XssaQsc You have restored the section of Partner institutions. I do not believe they should be restored. A simple list of institution names has no encyclopedic value and should not be included as per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. They are not sourced, please WP:PROVEIT with reliable sources as per WP:RS. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:10, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * That guy is pretty persistent on it. Considering the history of this page I'm not surprised. Ambidextrose (talk) 06:44, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Pictures
Can someone please submit pictures of the facilities within MMU to support the article. It's pretty barren even after I added all the information. Ambidextrose (talk) 10:15, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, I have a picture of E-mootcourt. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 10:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)