Talk:Muncie, Indiana/Archive 1

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I believe the article is worthy of B-Class status after reading the class guidelines on wikiproject:indiana

In an earlier version of this page, 63.146.39.33 had said that the 2nd largest employer was Mutual Federal. I altered this to Ball Memorial Hospital. However, it has come to my attention that (at least in some recent years), if one looks at the employment of the Cardinal Health Group (which includes, but is not limited to the hospital), then it may actually be the largest employer. It is generally taken for granted that BSU comes in 1st, but that may be subject to some controversy now. Does anyone wish to comment? OckRaz 20:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Its a little tricky as there are several ways to define largest employer, and it will change over time and you may not always be able to get accurate numbers. So why not try something a little less definite. I'd try something like: "Ball State University is the largest employer in Muncie followed by The Ball Memorial Hospital and Mutual Federal..." That way it doesn't much matter the particular order between the hospital and Mutual Federal. I hope this helps, Gwernol 21:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I think that the controversy deals more with whether or not Ball State University (BSU) is the largest employer. For a long time, it was uncontested that it was the largest employer, but now that Ball Memorial Hospital (BMH) is considered to be a part of Cardinal Health Group (CHG), CHG's numbers recently surpassed BSU's. For some in Muncie, it may be a point of pride and or contention to maintain BSU's dominance, which could make it more controversial than simply looking at the numbers. BSU supporters might take issue with CHG's being allotted first place since BMH has traditionally been thought of as a unique entity and only by adding health care employees who could be argued to belong to seperate businesses can CHG pull ahead. I have no idea why Mutual Federal was originally included as I don't believe that it is even in the top five. --OckRaz 08:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Added an image of Muncie's City Hall. --Kpaul.mallasch 01:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Concerning Cardinal Greenway in sites of interest - why is an internal link to Cardinal_Greenway continually replaced with an external link and removed from sites of interest? I am re-adding it for the third time. Joshualross 19:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering about the links to some of the schools, especially that of Muncie Central. Is there any reason why it does not have a wiki entry? It's notably older than Southside, generally in competition with Southside, and the second building (it's now on the third) had an interesting history where an individual by the name of Percy Hogg fell down an ventilation shift and died. His corpse found much later. Also, I believe there was some connection to the move, Hoosiers and that it was one location used in the show, Armed and Famous. While I'm not an editor, I would like to help. 75.42.215.76 (talk) 06:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Woody Allen
I don't know for sure, but I would be pretty surprised if Woody Allen referred to a rabbi from "Muncie" and not "Monsey, NY." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.241.37.140 (talk) 16:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It's definitely Muncie, IN.67.185.2.243 (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

vandalism problems


the same person keeps adding problems to this article someone might want to fix that Yuckfoo 18:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

This is the local University's IP number. How do we fix it? --Kpaul.mallasch 01:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Cultural References to Muncie
Question: Someone deleted the Muncie cultural references section, and I guess that's okay if it's non-standard to have such a section. But it seems to me that one of the interesting things about Muncie is that, for a small Indiana city, it makes a lot of appearances in popular culture. (That might be because of the Middletown studies.) Should the cultural references section return with some kind of note about Muncie's weird popularity as an aside in film and TV?Fj280 (talk) 00:41, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I was the one who deleted the section. It had grown to monstrous proportions with people adding things over time, and most of it was pointless minutiae that didn't really tell the reader anything about the city.  I don't know how Muncie compares to other similar-sized cities in terms of mentions in media, but most of the references were trivial at best.  The fact that some TV writers picked it (possibly at random?) as part of a minor character's backstory says nothing about the city, IMO. If the section were to be added back, I think it would need some serious pruning.  As for the note about popularity, it's an interesting observation, but I doubt that could be sourced if indeed it is true. -- L  P  talk 06:04, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

How about this article? Fj280 (talk) 17:26, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * How is there no mention in the pop culture references of Close Encounters of the Third Kind? A large part of that movie took place in Muncie.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.83.21.164 (talk) 14:13, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

I came to this article because I was wondering (as someone in the UK) why Muncie sounded so familiar. I think it was references in a TV show or movie I know of and had this section not been deleted I would now know. Please pare, rather than remove altogether! Adagio67 (talk) 11:23, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Bob Ross
Can't believe there's no mention of Bob Ross and his PBS show broadcast from Muncie, Indiana! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.242.140 (talk) 09:46, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Possibly because his main show, The Joy of Painting, was not broadcast from Muncie. He filmed a single pilot episode of another public TV show in Muncie, but died soon after.  If coming to Muncie once to work is enough to be mentioned in this city article, then every pro football and basketball player from every MAC college would have to be mentioned.  Don't think so. Gtwfan52 (talk) 21:59, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Possibly you're an idiot and need to research a little more before you talk? His first pilot show was filmed in Virginia. Joy of Painting was filmed in Muncie for 10 years, from 1984 to 1994. It's on Wikipedia, it's not even hard to find. Are you smart? Don't think so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:8482:2C00:CB8:E3BD:3ABE:BFF7 (talk) 06:27, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1990-07-07/lifestyle/9007060122_1_bob-ross-joy-of-painting-pbs/2 filmed there for 10 years, and comes back every three months spending time in Muncie until his death. Talked about Muncie on dozens of his shows. Was perhaps it's most vocal supporter throughout the 80's.

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 * I'm thinking there needs to be more information about the history. Does anyone else agree?Bmuncey4 (talk) 12:33, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Notable people associated with Muncie just by attendance at BSU
The addition of Joyce Dewitt to the notable people today raises a question. Should people associated with Muncie simply by attendance at Ball State be listed in the notable people section? There are arguments both ways and there is really no across the board consensus--it varies from college town to college town. So could the people who regularly edit here please weigh in with an opinion? I really am indifferent, but we shouldn't be doing whatever we are doing on a hit and miss basis. If we are going to list people whose only association with Muncie is being a student at Ball State, then we need to make an effort to include them all. If not, we need to remove them all. Opinions, please? John from Idegon (talk) 20:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Bob Ross (again)
First, calling other editors names is not a good way to get what you want inn a collaberative project such as this. Second, Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Third, the guidelines for city articles say that to be listed in a notable people's section, a person must have been born in, resided in for a significant period, or died in the city to be included. Working there is not mentioned. I'm not going to look them up right now because editing from this stupid phone does not allow me to copy and paste, but prior to his removal last year there were references stating that he would shoot his shows in a couple week span for every year and they mentioned he stayed in a motel during the filming. That is certainly not being a resident. Provide one single reliably sourced reference to his residence in Muncie and I will gladly shut up. That's how this works. John from Idegon (talk) 07:11, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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Muncie featured in the Film Close Encounters of the Third Kind, surely worthy of a quick memtion? 143.167.141.36 (talk) 12:14, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Muncie Neighborhoods
Muncie, Indiana is in Delaware County, Indiana. Delware County, Indiana, has a GIS Department (https://www.co.delaware.in.us/department/division.php?structureid=119). The Delaware County, Indiana, GIS Department uses http://delcogis.maps.arcgis.com for its maps (and links to that from the aforementioned page). One of the Delaware County, Indiana, GIS Department maps is of Muncie's neighborhoods: https://delcogis.maps.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=f9e36453d4f446b5bc090ffd4ae7c8d3. Should Muncie's neighborhoods be listed on Muncie's Wikipedia page?Tommyviper (talk) 06:37, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Sorting the list of Notable people
As far as I can tell, just about every other city-based page that has a list of notable people has that list sorted alphabetically by last name. Even this page does, with the exception of F. William Lawvere, under the General list. My attempt to fix this was reverted twice, first claiming that a simple sort-fix is not a minor edit and vioates WP:NPOV; the second time directing me here for consensus. So here I am. Why is sorting the list so controversial, and what NPOV rule did I violate? HalJor (talk) 19:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)


 * There's no problem with your edit, so I reinstated it. Indyguy (talk) 21:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

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