Talk:Mundialization

This article needs work
Mundialization does not necessarily involved supranational laws or world government. While its advocates may agree with those aims, mundialization celebrates our common humanity culturally, not legally. Those who keep pushing world federal government should accept that not everyone agree with those ideas yet, even if we support multilateralism and mundialization.

Btw, I don't understand why democratic globalization was renamed democratic mundialization. Mundialization precisly seems less focused on world institutions. --Pgreenfinch 09:57, 8 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I have changed the "attention" tag that you added to a "globalize" tag. I considered a "NPOV" tag instead, because your comments above seem to indicate that you think the article is not objective in describing the main tenets of mundialization... but primarily the problem seems to be that the mundialization movement is a loose collection of people advocating several related perspectives and actions, and you think some of the actions being advocated that are mentioned in the article are not supported by all members of the movement. So, let's diversify the points of view represented in the article to more fully represent the breadth of the topic!


 * Some external sources would be really valuable too. I'm not really familiar with this topic, so I'm not sure where to start in seeking them out. Mamawrites 11:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

NPOV
This is written from a right-wing POV, some it needs a tag.


 * Well personally I consider myself about as radical centrist as they get, and I think some parts of the article are fairly leftist. But I'll agree with you that it needs a NPOV tag, and I've just added one and some tags where I found it to be too POV. I suggest you also add such tags where you think it is POV, or better yet, correct it if you can. -Pfhorrest (talk) 07:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Is this a real thing?
Seems like a pretty minor movement, and one of the two citations (the other one is dead) does not even use the term. I really can't see why this would be in Wikipedia at all.128.135.219.202 (talk) 20:21, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

It is a real thing !: I saw it on Wikipedia

 * Mundialization was coined on 12 August 2003 as a characteristic of “the work that must be completed by those at the lower organisational rungs of the Trans National Corporations”.
 * On 2 October 2005, at 19:12 it became:
 * (1) “all the ideas and actions expressing the solidarity of populations of the globe and aiming to establish institutions and supranational laws of a federative structure common to them, while respecting the diversity of cultures and peoples”,
 * (2) “a scientific approach to social and inter-individual phenomena as seen from the world point of view” and
 * (3) a movement towards a World Federation.

Let’s be serious and let's mundialize the discussion:
 * It implied a directly elected world president from 2 October 2005 to 18 October 2011.
 * It ceased to be a scientific approach and became a “world movement” with “world territories” on 23 November 2005.
 * On 21 April 2006, it became the English version of the French “mondialisation” and another name for Garry Davis’ world citizen movement and its development in France.
 * On 13 September 2009, it became a synonym for democratic globalization. Two external links, none of which uses the term mundialization, are added.
 * From 24 May 2010 to 14 March 2011, it was equated with “mundialism”.
 * On 18 October 2011, the "world president" disappeared and it became a (poorly written) blog for the Canadian Burlington and Hamilton Mundialization Committees.
 * From the start, it has always been whatever you like it to be.
 * In the French Wikipédia, mundialization refers to “mondialisme”, defined as “the economic doctrine that advocates open markets, the removal of trade barriers, free trade and the free movement of persons” as well as “the democratic side of communist internationalism as a plan to establish a World State which will govern all peoples”. It has a single link to a extreme-left web site.
 * Mundialization is also equated with Мондиализм in the Russian Wikipedia, “the project of establishing a world government”.

So, mundialization is “a movement for a liberal free market communist world federal government based on world cities”. Without Wikipedia, we would not have known this.

Touchatou (talk) 16:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
 * This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article. Remove this template whenever:
 * There is consensus on the talkpage or the NPOV Noticeboard that the issue has been resolved
 * It is not clear what the neutrality issue is, and no satisfactory explanation has been given
 * In the absence of any discussion, or if the discussion has become dormant.

Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:27, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Merge tag
There was a year-old merge tag proposing a merger with Globalization. I see no discussion of that on either talkpage. I have changed the tag & re-dated to propose a merger with Global citizenship, which seems a better fit. Another possibility is a merger with World citizen, but I've been thinking about proposing a merger of those two (Global citizenship & World citizen). Comments and discussion should be made at Talk:Global citizenship Regards, Meclee (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC)