Talk:Municipal wireless network

Picture of Antenna?
I was thinking of taking a photograph of a municipal antenna to show what it looks like. I was just wondering if anyone has any objections --robo56 (talk) 03:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Change title
MU-FI? moo kow? seriously - I have always heard "muni wi-fi" or "municipal wireless" this is really a bogus term. search google and first hit I get is mufi hanneman, mayor of honolulu. If I knew how to change the title, I would - this article should be renamed "municipal wireless" and connected to Municipal broadband--Boscobiscotti 04:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

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It is unclear whether, among the several projects announced to date, any have succeeded in fulfilling their initial goals. It also appears that only a few service providers have been successful in terms of achieving a return on their investment. Furthermore, government provision of Mu-Fi services carries signficantly more risk than for core utility services such as water:


 * Risk of providing these core services is low since competition is non-existant. Mu-Fi, however, must compete directly with cable and DSL services already made available by market providers.
 * An inherent elasticity of demand for wireless access forces ISPs to evolve their service offerings, including prices.
 * Services geared to disadvantaged consumers will likely demand ongoing government subsidy.
 * The rate of change in wireless Internet technology suggests an elevated risk of obsolescence, which challenges budget assumptions.
 * If consumers adopt faster, less-expensive services as these technologies change and improve, revenue forecasts will suffer.
 * Expansive government technology projects almost always exceed their budget estimates due to a variety of factors.
 * Granting right-of-ways to a single vendor will distort competition in the market intended to generate revenue for the municipality, thereby putting these revenue forecasts at risk.

Does Golden Wi-Fi qualify?
They plan to cover the whole area of Moscow, Russia, and already covered something like few dozens percent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Telecom#Golden_Telecom.E2.84.A2

If they qualify, add them? Ilyak 06:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

lol...
this article is completely retarded as it doesnt list seoul. maybe it shouldn't be listed, considering south korea has nationwide wireless network (people watching portable tv underground in subways)
 * SOFIXIT. And make it not "retarded", lol. Katana0182 (talk) 23:34, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Gdansk
Should Gdansk be added? The following is covered. "Great Armoury to St. Mary’s church – an area of about three city blocks."  Tu rk ey ph an t 14:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

--RLent (talk) 16:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)==Socially-provided WiFi Networks== The vast majority of public access is provided by wifi owners who are kind enough not to put security on their networks. In comparison, access provided by municipalities is minuscule, which gives the concept of muni networks a bogus feel.

While municipal access can be described as socially-provided, presumably through taxes for public benefit and to stimulate economies, municipalities invariably follow a Capital model. The vast supply of free access that is provided to the public by the public is certainly socially provided, benefits all, and stimulates economies, but with no tax burden to the public. This purely social model has little, if anything, to do with Capital; it based on  generosity.

This generosity continues and grows despite continual messaging from Microsoft (and perhaps others) that implies that it is wrong not to configure security features on network devices. Municipal funds would be far better spent subsidizing individual access points if the become swamped, improving the process from a technical perspective, and investing in the process of bringing network monopolies to heel, so that access can be further spread, increasingly stimulating economies. The security "warnings" are bogus with respect to passwords because passwords go through HTTPS and not HTTP, and hence are invisible to crackers (hackers). Some sites are lazy or cheap enough not to use HTTPS, but users should be aware of this. Other information can be collected, such as personal emails, but this information can be collected at any point along its path across Internet networks, though wifi provides the best opportunity for snooping. I have seen cases were websites put passwords in emails, a strong case for extending HTTPS, or implementing other encryption, to other text such as emails. (Another change would be to configure routers by default when shipped to encrypt traffic but with out requiring the usual login authentication--but that would probably require a revolution to pull wifi control from its present owners!)

Perhaps the title should be changed, or a new article created that focuses on free access itself, with municipal access as a sub-topic, as there are many issues surrounding public access, especially with respect to security.--John Bessa (talk) 15:52, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Even if it is true that the vast majority of public access is on unsecured networks (which would need a citation) and even if it is true that there really isn't a security risk (which would again need a citation), it isn't relevant to this article, which is about municipal wi-fi. If you want to add such generous use of private networks, it would have to be added somewhere else, such as the main wi-fi article.--RLent (talk) 16:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Metro Station Wi-Fi access
In Sydney many train stations, buses and ferries are fitted with wi-fi access, should this be also included in the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by YuMaNuMa (talk • contribs) 02:44, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Best free city wifi service in the world?
Could somebody please answer this in the article? What free city wifi service exists for other cities to aspire to? Is there any international organisation monitoring this? Is there any plan for an EU-wide fee urban wifi service? In other words: for those of us who want to lobby our urban council, what cities can we point to as being exceptionally innovative? 79.97.154.238 (talk) 19:42, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Guadalajara, Mexico free city government supplied wifi with over 125 hotpots since 2011
Guadalajara, Mexico has had GDL Libre city operated public accessible free WIFI in over 125 hotspots since 2011 after initial plans began in 2009. It is in many locations... city parks, public areas, and city streets that have walking / public areas in the center median area. It is reliable and free. There is a 2 hour daily limit and a 1 hour continuous connect limit before being dropped. It continues to grow in size and quality. Many if not all neighborhood parks of a quarter block in size also have GDL Libre wifi coverage. GDL Libre's free wifi system has been well implemented for this city of 4 million plus residents. Reference the following pages http://www.gdllibre.com http://www.gdllibre.com/mapa.php to see a map of hotspots. Ghayz01 (talk) 01:51, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Tbilisi
There's a free municipal Wi-Fi that covers most of Tbilisi, Georgia. It also includes underground metro stations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shvelo (talk • contribs) 08:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

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About the India section.
The wifi points provided by Reliance Jio are only available to Reliance Jio network users, they're not open to the public at large. Same goes for Wifi points provided by Airtel, BSNL etc - for their respective subscribers alone, not the public at large. However, free, public access wifi does exist in most major railway stations and airports in India. In Railway stations it's provided by either Google or RailWire (which is a govt. enterprise). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theintuitus (talk • contribs) 08:52, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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