Talk:Murder in Norwegian law

Breivik
With Anders Breivik this page may get a lot more hits, could probably use some more info- especially with the (false) claims he has to be released after 21 yrs at the latest. --208.38.59.163 (talk) 22:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

corrections needed
This article definately needs to have the inaccuracies fixed. Preventavie detention (which is the correct translation of forvaring) is give when a person is a danger to society, not in other circumstances: http://www.lovdata.no/all/hl-19020522-010.html#39

Also the bit about "regardless of the number of victims" isn't right, but I don't quite know how to explain this in English without getting into complex legal principals. The short answer is the maximum sentence that can be given out in Norway is 21 years with a few exceptions. This is covered in §17 http://www.lovdata.no/all/hl-19020522-010.html#17

There's a much longer explanation that has to deal with the sentencing principals a country adheres to, but as I have only my law books for sources, and I'm not even sure I can literally translate the names of the legal principals, I think that's best left alone.

No, I'm not editing this myself. My English isn't good enough and I don't know what to do with non-English language sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.202.3.137 (talk) 14:35, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe there are several issues with this article. I found the explanation of the "forvaring" system unsatisfying. I think the article needs to be expanded in order to get it up to standard, because the stuff is too complicated to be handled just in the table. The assisted suicide/euthanasa part is treated too lightly as well. But it´s difficult to get these kind of articles up to an acceptable standards as it requires both good knowledge of Norwegian law as well as good knowledge of the English language. With regards, Iselilja (talk) 15:05, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

This is the best article I've found explaining forvaring, but it's in Norwegian: http://www.kriminalomsorgen.no/index.php?id=278212 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.202.3.137 (talk) 12:38, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

The article is in need of revision/rewrite and expansion, arguably corrections as well. Norwegian concepts/terms need definition/explanation. There's probably a lack of context as well. The law is typically a product of the society's history, culture etc. --Ohedland (talk) 11:59, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

--Ohedland (talk) 12:14, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
 * no:https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drap lists several other (related) types/categories as well.

Legemsbeskadigelse med døden til følge
The category "Legemsbeskadigelse med døden til følge" probably should be mentioned and explained as well. Typically physical violence causing a person's death, but without the intention of killing the person.
 * "Legemsbeskadigelse": Harm a person's body or health, make the person unconsious etc.
 * "med døden til følge": Direct translation: Causing death/so the person dies.

In some cases it may be this or "forsettlig drap". A person may be convicted of "forsettlig drap" if s/he ought to understand that death may be a result of one's action. For example stabbing a person with a knife in the chest in or near the heart, a normal person should understand that the other person may (very well) die whether you intend it or not. Hence s/he may be convicted of "forsettlig drap".

Information in Norwegian: --Ohedland (talk) 12:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Legemsbeskadigelse
 * http://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1902-05-22-10/KAPITTEL_2-15#KAPITTEL_2-15

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