Talk:Murder of Heidi Hazell

Contested deletion
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the death of Frau Hazell is equally as important as the deaths of other PIRA victims who have articles, such as Spanos and Melrose who were killed during the same shooting campaign. I see no reason why Hazell is less important than anyone else killed by PIRA, many of whom have articles. Her death is well referenced by multiple RS and was a significant event in West Germany at the time. The attack on Hazell is also important to establishing the context of the 1989-90 PIRA campaign. --FergusM1970Let's play Freckles 00:27, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:1E Mo ainm  ~Talk  00:29, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. I can either move it to "Murder of Heidi Hazell" or create a larger article called "1989-90 PIRA continental shooting campaign," which could also cover the killings of Melrose, Spanos and Mick Islania's baby daughter. However it's done, though, these deaths are significant and are going to be described in Wikipedia. --FergusM1970Let's play Freckles 00:35, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Notable Event
As I have already provided references to this event from the LA Times and BBC, and can provide more from other RS if required, it seems clear that the event was notable; although Hazell was murdered in Germany her death was reported in UK and US media. To say that it isn't notable is not a credible argument. Under WP:1E it may be appropriate to move the article to "Murder of Heidi Hazell," but I can't see any reason to remove it from Wikipedia that doesn't smell of a POV attempt at covering up a very, very nasty incident. --FergusM1970Let's play Freckles 00:45, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Let's keep the motive-suspecting nonsense to a minimum. This article was deleted once before in 2011 because of a failed prod, and it was closed because it apparently didn't meet WP:BIO. I waffled on whether to delete it as an A7 and let it be without deleting it and without removing the tag. I don't know what another admin will do.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:53, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Normally I wouldn't speculate about motives, but I've encountered the editor who proposed deletion before and I'm well aware of his attitude towards PIRA's victims. However I will ignore that (although I predict that One Night in Hackney and Domer48 will soon be along to request deletion) and go on adding information and references. The New York Times next, I think. --FergusM1970Let's play Freckles 00:58, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't doubt sources can be found for the event, but that doesn't make this person notable. Mo ainm  ~Talk  01:03, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * What makes her any less notable than, say, Mairead Farrell? The fact that she didn't have 200 pounds of Semtex hidden in her car? --FergusM1970Let's play Freckles 01:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I've edited the article (and added another RS) to illustrate the fact that the event was mentioned by senior members of two governments, including Margaret Thatcher. That seems to establish a degree of notability. --FergusM1970Let's play Freckles 02:11, 3 March 2013 (UTC)