Talk:Murder of Leslie Mahaffy

Pictures
WHY ARE

Objectivity
I have removed the reference to bernardo as a "semen smuggling bastard." While it's possible that he was indeed a semen smugggler born without a father, this is still uncalled for and adds nothing to an otherwise objective article.


 * I believe you mean it's possible that he was born out of wedlock. It isn't possible that he was born without a father, unless he's Jesus. &mdash;Daelin 14:01, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Quite true -- point taken.

Shoplifting removed
Took this out:  She had openly rebelled against her parents during the school year and had skipped school, engaged in promiscuous sex, and ran away from home on at least two occasions. Her academic standing had suffered as a result. She is also said to have shoplifted and repeatedly stayed out past her curfew.

This info is unnecessary and has no bearing on her kidnapping and murder. The last sentence verges on libel (just *who* is saying that she shoplifted??).


 * The authors of Deadly Innocence state this around p. 21 of their book. However, I didn't put it back in during a revision today.  I didn't think it was all that important.  That she ran away twice prior to her murder matters to her final story, but not that she had done some (how much?) shoplifting.  A lot more relevant is that she wore braces, something which helped identify her body.   Regarding libel, the legal rule is that you cannot libel the dead (in other words, you can say whatever you like, but not get sued for libel by the dead person's estate).  Being dead, Mahaffy doesn't fall into WP:BLP, either.  Even so, details of her life should have good verifiable citations. -- LisaSmall T/ C  08:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Parents
Did they make any public statements subsequent to her disappearance and murder? I'm wondering how they dealt with their actions the night of her kidnapping.


 * Her mother, Debbie (Debby? Debbi?) Mahaffey, is quoted in the MSNBC documentary "To Love And To Kill." -- LisaSmall T/ C 03:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * "At times struggling to retain their composure while speaking on the CBC's National Magazine, the four - Donna and Doug French, together with Deborah and Dan Mahaffy - addressed many issues ..."

and "The timing of the Oct. 5 interview, which was followed by a similar appearance the next morning on CTV's Canada AM ..." http://www.encyclopediecanadienne.ca/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0010494 AlkaloidMan (talk) 09:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC) AlkaloidMan

Name spelling, deletion
The deletion discussion in April 2007 ended with "keep." I probably would have voted to merge and delete. The killers' other two victims have their own articles, and possibly all three should be merged onto single subpage of the killer's own pages. That aside, I've found Mahaffy referred to as both "Mahaffey" and "Mahaffy" and can't tell which is the erroneous spelling yet. I set up a redirect from "Mahaffey" to the current article and added citations for five books, a documentary, and a biopic. The whole article needs citations. -- LisaSmall T/ C 03:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Fact problems
The article seriously lacks citations, though I put in as many as I could today from the single source I have handy, Deadly Innocence. Unfortunately, even with that source, there are still several allegations without citations at all. Furthermore, the article currently says the videotapes were destroyed; as far as I know, they were only suppressed by the judge's gag order, not destroyed. Citations to print sources are needed to help clarify which "facts" are the accurate ones. I put the citation request box at the top of the article in hopes of attracting cites from other sources besides DI. -- LisaSmall T/ C 08:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Here are some links that say the tapes were destroyed
 * Tapes made by Bernardo destroyed
 * http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2001/12/21/bernardo011220.html
 * Bernardo tapes destroyed, says lawyer for victims' families
 * http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2001/12/21/bernardo_tape011220.html
 * Infamous Bernardo tapes destroyed: lawyer
 * http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20011222/ctvnews833830?s_name=&no_ads=


 * I have no idea how to do the citation in wiki markup. sorry!
 * anonymous 05:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

There is a discrepancy with her birthday between the introductory lines and the family background section. On which date was she born, the 1st of July or the 5th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Achay Pay (talk • contribs) 22:04, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Her name is definitely spelled "Mahaffy."

See, for example, Teale v. Noble, 2005 CanLII 38266 (QC C.S.)

R. v. Bernardo, 1995 CanLII 7434 (ON S.C.)

Quebec (Attorney General) v. Teale, 2005 QCCA 1174

R. v. French, 1998 CanLII 1325

etc.

All those cases in one way or another involve the French or Mahaffy family either trying to get restrictions imposed on Homolka or something else, but they're court documents and they all spell the name "Mahaffy."

You can find these court documents at www.canlii.org.

I am also wondering where the claim that Bernardo was convicted of murdering Tammy Homolka came from. As per: "On November 3, 1995, Associate Chief Justice LeSage found Bernardo to be a Dangerous Offender. He accepted the agreed-upon evidence that Bernardo was the Scarborough rapist who had committed 14 sexual assaults of varying brutality, and that he was also guilty of manslaughter in the death of Tammy Homolka in December, 1990." R. v. Baltovich, 2008 CanLII 19211 (ON S.C.)

It doesn't look like Bernardo was convicted of murdering Tammy Homolka, just of manslaughter.AlkaloidMan (talk) 09:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)AlkaloidMan

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion: Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 10:52, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Leslie Mahaffy2.jpg

I go to the school she went
It is mm robinson 24.51.233.123 (talk) 18:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC)